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Old 06-23-2008, 12:19 AM
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Default Keeping good notes

I just finished on my 3rd 'in the money' table in my grand total of 2 weeks and change of free roll playing.

Of course on my last hand I had AK which is typical of when I get busted out. There was only 30 players left in the tourny so there was no risk of being bumped out empty handed (like what happened to me last night when i finished 29th of 2700, with payouts to 1-27,grrr)

The flop came up garbage..and there was already a decent amount of money in the pot from blinds and raises. All of the cards were under 8 in value, which to me was good because any card 8 or better is a possible starting hand usually.

I went all in...my opponent followed. He made a pair of 5's because he had 5/6 suited to start with. Not a great starting hand, but here is the important part.

He had watched me play at a table earlier in the tourny, and noticed that I would go in 3-4 times the BB at least on AA/AK, and if I didn't made a pair on the flop, I would typically jack it up then to scare people off. Of course he made a note on this, and that is what costed me a higher placing in the tourny.

I know Eric Lindgren from FT swears by keeping notes and I can see why now.

I think notes are also very useful to use on the "all inners" you see in most FT freeroll games, especially if they do it with garbage. This could help you take a lucrative pot if you have a good playable hand I think.

Does anyone know if it is possible to swap player note information? It strikes me that kind of information could be totally valuable?
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Old 06-24-2008, 12:45 PM
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I agree that good notes are awesome, but I think that it is kind of a waste of time in freerolls. There are so many people, you will rarely run into the same people often. Just assume that most people that play in Freerolls suck, until its proven otherwise.
GL at the tables!
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Old 06-24-2008, 01:44 PM
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Agree with last poster. I tend to colour code mine and only make notes in mitigating circumstances.
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Old 06-24-2008, 06:09 PM
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In a tournament players adjust as the game moves on. You can quickly determine a players style by the number of flops they see, like the typical calling station for example. After a while their chip stack becomes a factor. Also, how well the play position.

In a freeroll, I can start one of two ways. Sometimes I wait things out and play mildly agressive TAG. Other times I go for it and hope to chip up big rather then sit for hours to potentially win nothing. If I chip up big I can shut down and protect my stack, where most lottery players donate their stacks back. So, if you note I am a lottery player early on, you will pay me off later when I am back maximizing my chips as a ultra agressive TAG player taking out the lottery players that cant muck TPTK or a bad draw into the hidden nutz.

My point is, notes only help if you keep tracking the player and refuse to assume you know for sure what they are doing. Logic has to superceed possibly flawed notes.
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