Omaha Rebuy tournaments = Joke?

[aarono]

I laughed pretty hard tonight, not due to anything being necessarily funny, more like a laugh you have when you're stressed out and see your house collapse as you bring in groceries from your car.

I started to laugh as I saw the congradulations for busting out of a tournament message on Fulltilt. I tend to see this alot in these rebuy tournaments when I'm about 3 spots away from the money. For instance take my last hand of the night tonight:

6-7-8-9 double suited. I smooth call on the cutoff, SB (idiot who is going on tilt after I took a big chunk of his stack), and BB both see the flop.

Flop is 4h-5h-6c. I have the nut straight plus a redraw to a higher straight. He bets, I repot pot and he calls this lets me know either he has the idiot straight and or a flush draw. Turn comes a 7x giving me the nut straight. He checks, I go all-in to avoid giving him any odds to hit his flush. If he were to call and lose he'd have roughly 10k left and I'd double up to 30k+. He calls my all-in with 2h-3h-Qx-Kx. Turn is the 6 of hearts to give him the straight flush and me the losing fullhouse!

I don't know if he was willing to gamble his whole life on a straight flush draw or if he really thought drawing to his piss poor flush was going to win.

Pure disgusting.

omaha is quite a large crapshoot in general and chalk full of variance, add that in the idea of rebuys which causes people to take more risks as it is and your bound for trouble.

One way i try to handle this is to control the pot size and keep my bets small, i know ill end up winning more pots in the long run, and keep myself from losing a big pot.

[teflonjon001]

I tend to feel a little differently regarding Omaha with rebuys. I personally don't care for NLHE with rebuys because I think it favors the bad players. However, Omaha is, as has been previously stated, a game full of variance. These things tend to happen quite a bit, so the ability to rebuy favors the good player, because it gives you a chance to mitigate the swings that are inherant in the game.

Originally Posted by teflonjon001

I tend to feel a little differently regarding Omaha with rebuys. I personally don't care for NLHE with rebuys because I think it favors the bad players. However, Omaha is, as has been previously stated, a game full of variance. These things tend to happen quite a bit, so the ability to rebuy favors the good player, because it gives you a chance to mitigate the swings that are inherant in the game.

thats a good point, which makes sense, but unfortunately in rebuys often times donks manage to build up large stacks and can afford to see any Pot raise pre flop during the second hour what are your thoughts on that? Variance will probably kill you in the end.

[aarono]

If this stuff happened in rebuy period I wouldn't mind. I seem to run into opponents who are the equivelant of sacks of wheat after I can no longer rebuy. These are the guys I love to play cash with, but not in a tournament!

Omaha + rebuys = fun. The variance sucks but at least it is more fun than holdem in my opinion.

well, bad luck for u cause in the river with the 6of hearts he has the straight flush. He really calls very bad, its really frustating to lose with these hand and its really frustating also that these players play so bad calling one proyect of color cause the odds are 1 to 4 more or less. fult tilt poker has to many bad beats. so unfair that......

[AlCapwned]

Originally Posted by aarono

I laughed pretty hard tonight, not due to anything being necessarily funny, more like a laugh you have when you're stressed out and see your house collapse as you bring in groceries from your car.

I started to laugh as I saw the congradulations for busting out of a tournament message on Fulltilt. I tend to see this alot in these rebuy tournaments when I'm about 3 spots away from the money. For instance take my last hand of the night tonight:

6-7-8-9 double suited. I smooth call on the cutoff, SB (idiot who is going on tilt after I took a big chunk of his stack), and BB both see the flop.

Flop is 4h-5h-6c. I have the nut straight plus a redraw to a higher straight. He bets, I repot pot and he calls this lets me know either he has the idiot straight and or a flush draw. Turn comes a 7x giving me the nut straight. He checks, I go all-in to avoid giving him any odds to hit his flush. If he were to call and lose he'd have roughly 10k left and I'd double up to 30k+. He calls my all-in with 2h-3h-Qx-Kx. Turn is the 6 of hearts to give him the straight flush and me the losing fullhouse!

I don't know if he was willing to gamble his whole life on a straight flush draw or if he really thought drawing to his piss poor flush was going to win.

Pure disgusting.

Man, everyone has there own style and there is no reason to call someone an idiot because they made a play you don't agree with, YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY HE CALLED, Why? Because you got him to call off his chips with a inferior hand. I'm sure you told him off to since you come on here calling him an idiot. Show some class and move on.

[aarono]

Originally Posted by AlCapwned

Man, everyone has there own style and there is no reason to call someone an idiot because they made a play you don't agree with, YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY HE CALLED, Why? Because you got him to call off his chips with a inferior hand. I'm sure you told him off to since you come on here calling him an idiot. Show some class and move on.

I didn't berate him in chat, and I will sure as hell berate him on here for that play. And yes Al I understand that he put his money in drawing to pretty much nothing, and that's poker.

I do not need the polite police telling me what I should be doing.

I don't really play Omaha, but I am constantly reading pros who advise that its the game to get into these days if you want to make money; the reason being that most people in Omaha games are just NL Texas Holdem players who are bored (they play for a couple of hours then not again for six months). These players tend to lose their money really fast because they don't grasp the differences between the games.

Sounds like that's what you are seeing.