**Poker Cheating Software: Bots/Card Prediction & Changing Hole Cards**

Yeah its really sad what happened with those two sites, but I think its good because it'll scare the other sites from doing the same thing

Originally Posted by Ace

Card Prediction & RNG Cracking/Hacking

Poker RNG stands for Poker Random Number Generator. Every online poker website uses a certain RNG to generate random numbers which ideally leads to random cards.

However, no computer can possibly generate a completely random number. The numbers are generated using a very sophisticated formula. This formula is essentially what we call RNG. If the RNG of a poker website is found by a player, he will know the cards on the flop, turn, river, as well as other players hole cards. As every poker player knows, this will give dominating advantage to the cheater/hacker. It is important to mention that online poker websites change their RNGs bi-weekly or some even every week. While this does not stop the hackers to find the new RNG, it slows it down a lot.

It is impossible for everyday people to crack the RNG of Online Poker sites, and if there were people who could do it then we would see them on Full Tilt Poker winning thousands daily.

Bottom line is RNG Cracking/Hacking software is bogus, so do not buy any sort of program that says they can do it. Because they can't.

Does this mean every hand has a predetermined outcome until the RNG changes? I mean, if it's heads up and a player is dealt AcQh and the other player 7d7s, one of the players will win the race every time until the RNG changes making the hand "fixed".

Oh, and I mean every unique hand. If the suits change then it would count for a different situation. Of course I have no idea I'm only asking.

Originally Posted by hawkeye23

Does this mean every hand has a predetermined outcome until the RNG changes? I mean, if it's heads up and a player is dealt AcQh and the other player 7d7s, one of the players will win the race every time until the RNG changes making the hand "fixed".

No, that's not how RNGs work...the formula is basically used to create an order of all 52 cards in the deck, which are then distributed to the players in turn, just as they are in a live game--i.e., once the deck is shuffled, that's the order that it's in for that hand. Same with the RNG. It doesn't shuffle the cards constantly, it effectively shuffles the cards for that hand based on whatever formula was used to create it.

A good RNG is not perfect, but it is more random than a live shuffle by a human dealer. So for the purposes of the game, the RNGs used by the poker sites are plenty good enough.

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Seriously. If you think these programs work. You are an idiot.

[beechleaf]

my acc was closed after another player wrote them and said i was conspiring with another player in a sng over 26.00 prize money then they said i used a bot. they seize all my money and closed my acc. the only listen too players with big loses not players who win large amonts as for bot im sure there out there but ive never used 1 becareful of ft they will take your money when someone complaines about you

[ROYALKNIGHT]

Originally Posted by beechleaf

my acc was closed after another player wrote them and said i was conspiring with another player in a sng over 26.00 prize money then they said i used a bot. they seize all my money and closed my acc. the only listen too players with big loses not players who win large amonts as for bot im sure there out there but ive never used 1 becareful of ft they will take your money when someone complaines about you

What site was this? How could they do that without proof?

absolutly the best read you linked was Mr. Gatorade’s Lies cost me over 70k at Full Tilt - Two Plus Two Poker Forum

this thread has alot of good info!!

[MeAmy]

Originally Posted by ROYALKNIGHT

What site was this? How could they do that without proof?

Lately there have been a lot of threads about Full Tilt freezing accounts for no apparent reason. MOST of the time it comes out that they did some something that goes against the ToS, but sometimes there just isn't any clear reason. I think the problem is the sites don't want to give out too much information because then cheaters would find better ways to get around the detection process (which is a good idea), but they won't even tell you what you did in general. You are completely in the dark.

Internet Poker - Two Plus Two Poker Forum has threads, sometimes on a daily basis, about this.


I would not buy any of these programs. The majority (probably all of them, I don't know) are scams. I could probably see why people would want to run these program =Free $$$ essentially, but the risk is just too much if you get caught. They will confiscate your funds and completely ban you from their site.