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Old 08-21-2008, 04:16 PM
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Default very IMPROBABLE ,,,,not IMPOSSIBLE

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Also, the difference between empirical and anecdotal evidence.

"omg I lost with aces 3 times in a row" /= statistical impossibility.

this is not impossible....very very improbable.... yes !! would i believe it if someone claimed that it had happened to them ?? again...very improbable !! lol
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Old 08-21-2008, 05:24 PM
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Why on earth wouldn't you believe it? Do you think that there's some built-in programming that makes a player automatically win with AA after 2 losses in a row? Now that would be rigged.

After something happens twice in a row, it is no less likely to happen the 3rd time. Poker sites have millions of hands taking place every day. Even if the specific situation is only 1% to happen (and the vast majority of events claimed to be "omg fixed" are much, MUCH more likely to happen), it's not only going to happen, it's going to happen a lot.

Thus; combination of people noticing and telling each other about the "1%" when it happens, the "I am a special butterfly and bad things should never ever happen to me or something is wrong with the universe" syndrome, and wanting someone specific to blame for a disappointing loss when it occurs (rather than the nebulous (and elusive) concept of "math" = OMG Rigged Syndrome.
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Old 08-21-2008, 05:33 PM
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[quote=weaselgirl;165681]Why on earth wouldn't you believe it? Do you think that there's some built-in programming that makes a player automatically win with AA after 2 losses in a row? Now that would be rigged.

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why wouldn't i believe it? very simple ...poker players are notorious liars. you have to be or you'll never be able to bluff successfully.
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:06 AM
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I'm going to go ahead and assume you're either being sarcastic or exaggerating for emphasis, because otherwise there's so many things wrong with that statement I wouldn't even know where to begin.

Also, for future reference, /= is the "does not equal" symbol.
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:09 AM
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Actually, it's specifically the "≠" symbol, but I've mostly seen people type it /= online. Or there's the computer science version, "!="
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:41 AM
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if u think online gaming isnt rigged, your fooling yourself.

keep depositing sucka!

i think the reason why the worst hand going into a multiway pot always wins is because sites like fooltilt want you to think your a smart player to call 3 peoples allin with jack 5 or king 3.

you will beat the guy with kk and the guy with jj.

they know if they rigg the tournys to let the weaker players win it they will lose it all in less than an hour at a ring game.
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:44 AM
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weaselgirl your living in dreamland.
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Old 08-23-2008, 03:21 AM
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"keep depositing sucka!"

I've never deposited, except briefly on sites that required it for withdrawal, and then immediately withdrew it.

I have made around $3k since January playing mostly $1 to $5 SNGs and Tournaments. Winning players do, in fact, win. Percentage wise, my good hands hold up pretty well. I've seen some sick beats, but I've played a lot and realize that this is therefore normal.

By all means, continue to play badly and blame the RNG. I have noticed that the majority of players who claim "OMG rigged" are the ones that tend to go all-in preflop at very low levels where they should know they're going to get called by crap hands, and therefore possibly beaten by, guess what, crap hands. Or, they don't know when to fold a hand postflop once beaten. If you can't fold AA postflop because you believe it "should" win... you should be blaming yourself when you lose, not the cards.

And the truly rare, runner-runner suckouts - they're called bad beats for a reason. Watch some live poker, like the WSOP. There's some sick, sick suckouts.
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Old 08-23-2008, 03:22 AM
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"they know if they rigg the tournys to let the weaker players win it they will lose it all in less than an hour at a ring game."

And this benefits who, exactly? Are you now claiming that tournaments are rigged, while cash games are not? Fantastic.
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Old 08-23-2008, 06:08 AM
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Default how do you explain all the weird sh*t that happens ??

to those of you that claim online poker is rigged, how do you explain some of the "damn near impossible " comebacks ? for example : i was in a 10 player SNG one time, each player started with 100 chips. with 7 players left i was down to my last 6 chips & all in on the BB when i catch AA, I flop trips and quadruple my stack to a WHOPPING 24 chips !!! still lookin pretty bleak as i have a whole 24 of the 1000 chips at the table. next hand AKs,i flop nut flush. triple up & i'm off to the races ! ended up winning the tourney !..... JUST WHERE WAS THE BIG STACK FIX ???...... i've seen other guys on the bubble with only 2 BBs left end up at the final table ! the thing is this, lets say the "big stack" has 150,000 chips in front of him & you go all in for 8,000 with KK, if he's got a hand that's at all playable & DOESN'T call.........he's out of his mind! he probably ended up with that stack cause he's on a rush & he's been hitting everything he's been drawing to, are you gonna tell me you've never had that happen to you? ya gotta play those rushes out! & ya gotta be able to see when the rush is over. & i've seen so many times where a short stack or a player with an average stack goes all in pre flop with Ax.... against a guy that's been rushing for a half hour or more !! how stupid can you get ? next time you get busted out midway through a tourney, check back later to see if the guy that had that monster stack at that time actually ends up winning.yeah, it does happen but i would say more often than not that "big stack " doesn't take 1st, oh he'll finish in the money, unless he's a complete moron.if any site was truly rigging their games don't you think that some computer geek somewhere would be able to figure out how & be able to prove it ? or is it just rigged so that YOU can't win? remember what i said earlier about being paranoid.......
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