2008-07-17 - Re #3

Am I on Candid Camera? You're looking for RUNNER RUNNER flush or a 10?!?!??! He's RERAISING your preflop, and keeps raising? No indication that he's loose. I like the adage 'ok to raise with nothing, never call with nothing'. To ME, that flop = nothing. Just how much you wanna spend to lose the hand? For those that said 'reraise' here, it is mind-boggling. EASY fold.

Lets see, if I did my math correctly there is $12 in the pot and will cost you $2 to call. You are getting 6 to 1 on your money.
The Quiz Master says you have 10 outs....4 Ten's 3 Jacks and 3 Nines I assume. But wait, didn't our beloved Quiz Master say TIGHT table. I say you only have 2 good outs and a 3rd if you don't think the small blind DOESN't have AK of diamonds. Why only 2....Hey the Small Blind re-raised you and they are TIGHT, you have to put them on AA,KK,QQ,JJ, or AK. So your 3 Jacks are null and void along with your 3 Nines and you can't give a full out for the Ten of Diamonds. Therefore you have 2.5 good outs. I'm folding this busted steal.

Originally Posted by tempy

pot odds basically gives you enough reason to call, he may have ak and just continuation betting

It doesn't say anything about numbers so how can you compute that?
Folding is by far the right play. Depending on how deep we are in the tournament and what your stack is, folding is the best play possible. To say folding is completely wrong is inaccurate. You had a plan to steal the blinds, you faced someone who clearly states he has a hand, and you cut your losses.

Its an easy fold. I want my money back for being slandered for being called wrong. >:|

[Lloydinho77]

i just get the feeling that on another day the answer would be fold and the reasoning would be that:

he could have an overpair
he could of hit his set
he could have something like AJ diamonds which is shortening your odds massively

[1stKngBlckSldg]

I have to add a comment here. The small blind bets (it says) but not how much.. If the small blind bets and puts you all-in are you gonna call? Seriously, calling an all-in with only 10 outs (4 of which are the gutshot) Seems wrong to be put all-in with so many hands that could beat you right from the start. I' know what the expected answer is but this one is definitely not one I would have called.

3 days in a row now, HEEHAA!! that makes me feel good don't have to get upset today either. i can't see myself withdrawing yet, if opp is holding, i put the guy on A w/ good kicker.? well i wouldn't raise just yet. i like to see the turn.

I called, still a change straight show up and you are testing his strength. As long as you have chips left at end of hand if your wrong about your opponent.

That was big blind raised? I would believe that he had a low hand. I called because I would like to think I might have a chance for straight. Hopefully he didn't have flush.

SB re-raised pre-flop and bet on the flop, knowing he would play this hand out of position, and has been playing tight. Thinking there are 10 outs is really wishful thinking. Thinking the SB will fold to a re-reaise is wishful thinking. There are 4 outs, the pot is $14. Calling down to the river costs $6 for what would be a $26 pot. Pot odds are 4.5 to 1. Hitting your straight assuming the 10D is good and that the opponent has an overpair is about 6 to 1.

Raising makes the pot odds worse. Calling down to the river is not profitable long term. Fold.