2008-06-30 - Final table soon

[railbird]

2008-06-30 - Final table soon

With all the tight players at my table raising the $1600 is the same as going all-in except that I may get one caller and be able to see the flop. If my opponent does not have a hand he will fold anyway, if he has a hand I'm still in great position to win the hand and increase my stack more than the 10%!
I'm going to try to increase my stack as much as possible here to compete with the loose players.

[the_Styb]

While I understand the motivation for "all-in" here, it's still a crap shoot. From the setup it's clear that you're the short stack, or damn close to it, so you do need to act soon, but A/6 os against two players who have you covered is not the ideal situation. You may get lucky and win it outright considering your opponents are tight, but if either limper is above 10K in chips, chances are they're going to call you with pockets or A/face. Good Luck.

[1stKngBlckSldg]

yep. It's a gamble but it reads right for an all in so I choose the correct answer.


Good luck on the tables!

[Azhiaziam]

I got to agree small stack tight players its an allin bet heck its an allin bet with atc in my opinion chances are you wont get a call and any ace is a good in such a short handed table so push and take down the blinds and the butttons limp. If he would have had any kind of hand he would have raised instead of limping. Besides all that I am going for first not limping or just minimum or even 3x the blind and having an out of position post flop play where in all likelihood I would be called. In the small blind I would be raising allin too. After that any king or above and all my chips are in the middle for any tight player to take at least until the rest of the field joins us. 5 players + tight players + 1 off final tables = stealing blinds continually

[Azhiaziam]

Post note raising up to any less than an allin is such a wrong move it invites the button into the hand with any hand he found worth limping in with. Puts chips in the table which would cripple you anyhow if you lose. It looks like a weak move with an ace 6 offsuit or something and an ace 9 may call. The game isnt always playing the best hand just playing the hand the best

raise it to 1,600 is a 4 times the BB raise and enough to get this player off of a moderate hand plus if he reraises you can get away from the hand and still have 10 BBs left to push when you are in positon to steal a pot!!!!! why risk all my chips when makeing it 4x the BB will 9 out of 10 times get the same result!!!
i just dont get the reasoning behind pushing here.

Originally Posted by p0ker_j0ker

raise it to 1,600 is a 4 times the BB raise and enough to get this player off of a moderate hand plus if he reraises you can get away from the hand and still have 10 BBs left to push when you are in positon to steal a pot!!!!! why risk all my chips when makeing it 4x the BB will 9 out of 10 times get the same result!!!
i just dont get the reasoning behind pushing here.

Poker Joker named this right on the head, same thing I would do

Originally Posted by p0ker_j0ker

raise it to 1,600 is a 4 times the BB raise and enough to get this player off of a moderate hand plus if he reraises you can get away from the hand and still have 10 BBs left to push when you are in positon to steal a pot!!!!! why risk all my chips when makeing it 4x the BB will 9 out of 10 times get the same result!!!
i just dont get the reasoning behind pushing here.

Agree completely. At a tight table 1600 will take down the pot if you have the best hand.

[doookie]

Am I the only one who, after everyone folded to me, has limped in with a monster at a short table hoping a short stack would push all in believing his weak A (or whatever) was best because there was no raise? Then BAM! CYA! I've done it on several occasions and had it done to me more than once. Raise 4XBB and go from there. I'm not yet short enough, this close to making the final table, to be risking my tourney on such a weak ass hand. If you want to gamble on this hand, good luck. I'm willing to bet I didn't make it this far by foolishly risking my chips.