Tournaments. Whats the attraction?

The attraction is as e1 said , little investment potentially big reward ,
also tourneys have a different strat which makes it interesting as well ,
having said that i did luv my pl08 n stud 8 cash games on ft , they don't exist on luvin ,
ya the blind structure is insane so most games turn into shove or fold pretty quickly ,
even some pl08 games seem to be played that way lately lmao , nothing like seeing a pot
limit game
turned into a nlhe shovefest by people with no post flop skills , oh well lol , gl

Italians on Luvin


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Blinds 75/150 NL Hold'em - 2011/11/04 - 21:15:51
Table 17
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players: 7
Seat 1: vevemar ( 5360 Chips )
Seat 2: DaPirateLP ( 7925 Chips )
Seat 3: Fossilis ( 13876 Chips )
Seat 5: rossi99 ( 10056 Chips )
Seat 6: okkoSP ( 3052 Chips )
Seat 7: Jeriray1 ( 4000 Chips )
Seat 8: Seaurchin1 ( 17411 Chips )
DaPirateLP: posts small blind [ 75 Chips]
Fossilis: posts big blind [ 150 Chips]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Seaurchin1 [ K+, A[ ]
rossi99 calls [ 150 Chips]
okkoSP folds
Jeriray1 folds
Seaurchin1 raises [ 510 Chips]
vevemar folds
DaPirateLP folds
Fossilis folds
rossi99 calls [ 360 Chips]
** Dealing Flop ** [ J_, T_, Q[ ]
rossi99 checks
Seaurchin1: bets [ 710 Chips]
rossi99 calls [ 710 Chips]
** Dealing Turn ** [ J+ ]
rossi99 checks
Seaurchin1: bets [ 1,280 Chips]
rossi99 raises [ 3,300 Chips]
Seaurchin1 raises [ 14,911 Chips]
rossi99 calls [ 5,536 Chips]
** Dealing River ** [ T+ ]
rossi99 shows [ J[, K[ ] a full house, jacks full of tens
Seaurchin1 shows [ K+, A[ ] a straight, ace high
rossi99 wins 20337 chips from main pot with a full house, jacks full of tens [ J[, J_, J+,
T_, T+ ]

I forgot to answer your question what is the attraction. The answer is two fold, one I do
like the sudden jump in money. Two I like the attention. You will a tournament it goes
on Sharkscope, win virtual trophies and get a blog, private leagues where they keep
points, etc. Cash games are work, I go there to make money.

I get what you are saying about the play being all preflop, I do wish we could get more
post flop. A lot of times in private big stack tournaments you get players playing so
absurdly tight. They wait until the blinds get to big and same thing happens only later.
If you had that 1% cap the game would only end when set over set type hand happens that
could take hours. I need to go to work in the morning. So unless it is for a big stack
of money I do need it to wrap up. While it does become shove it poker, I can't play the
entire night. Even if it does play slower, most people are just maniacs who are just
looking to let it ride, (Which is fine with me.) or complete nits that won't play outside
their top ten hands or attempt to read someone else post flop. (My hand missed better
fold.) They are never looking to improve just survive and hoping someone else falls on
their sword. Smaller blinds are good with the right group of people but this would just
concern me. Plus online when I want post flop play, I go to the cash games.

ok a champ secret play when u have aa in late position with 2-3 limpers raise 40-50% your
stck make it outrages bet

Write comment...

Yeah I did not much care for the tournament yesterday I spent more then i mincashed by
about 3$

"At least with them you knew they were holding Ace rag, on Luvin there is no rhyme or
reason to how some of these people play and they really have turned it into a game of luck
on there over a game of skill. If I'm going to have to play that game I might as well push
when the blinds are high because raising just doesn't work, they call with any two and
call down with any pair and it seems more often than not they luck out. "

Slo Mo, I have to agree with your above comments ... their play sometimes makes me think I
must be playing against a BOT that is owned by the poker site itself and programmed to
"hit on the river" when they can get at least one person all-in. Makes me sound paranoid,
I know, but some of their river hits amaze me beyond belief. No, I am not saying "rigged"
so don't take this out of context.

Good input about "poker" for a change. :)

style you should try out the 1 dollar cap table. the river is grand at that table. LOL

On another note what champstone said about rarely raising preflop. I totally agree with
him and have applied that to my game and gets been working great.

23 runs like god aa holds kk holds hes italy proof .last time i seen so many hands hold
was at aa

Just shows you the different view points which is great.
I thrive on the luvin cash tables. Im at about 44bb/hr and I only play micro1c/2c and
2c/4c. Up around $500 in 4 months. My experience is completly different from 23. I am
hardly every allin.
So I really enjoy the cash tables. 23 hates them.
I am incredibly frustrated at the tourny tables. 23 loves them.
Aint poker grand?

you just have to adjust to a lower level of play . no bluffing early no big raises preflop
no 1s folding idk u got do things diff i m struggling myself but im getting a theory how
to win on luvin

i put you above italy but still below russians but your moving up sea lmao

it's one thing to complain about the bad play of the Italians, but it's quite another to
allow yourself to be drawn in to playing at their level.

I was in that tourny and took my time watching the game and players actions, seen so
many allins the first hour got dizzy counting lol...I played 5 hands in that period and
three were allins, AA,and 2 KK hands which I won, the second hour things hardly changed,
found it difficult in playing actual poker because of the allins by those annoying
Italians ffs, lost a few to blinds and had a stack of around 20K when I got in
seat 1 position....

Table 8
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players: 8
Seat 1: zuluwarrior ( 20680 Chips )
Seat 2: XtremeITM ( 30813 Chips )
Seat 3: oro76 ( 47445 Chips )
Seat 4: ziotony000 ( 21800 Chips )
Seat 5: Grunwald ( 10899 Chips )
Seat 6: Star_Sky ( 9545 Chips )
Seat 7: messina10 ( 1350 Chips )
Seat 8: Mithdoctor ( 23785 Chips )
zuluwarrior: posts ante [ 100 Chips]
XtremeITM: posts ante [ 100 Chips]
oro76: posts small blind [ 500 Chips]
ziotony000: posts big blind [ 1000 Chips]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to zuluwarrior [ Ah, 4h ]
Grunwald folds
Star_Sky folds
messina10 folds
Mithdoctor folds
zuluwarrior calls [ 1,000 Chips]
XtremeITM folds
oro76 calls [ 500 Chips]
ziotony000 checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3h, Qd, 9h ]
oro76: bets [ 46,345 Chips]
ziotony000 folds
zuluwarrior calls [ 19,580 Chips]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ts ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
zuluwarrior shows [ Ah, 4h ] high card ace
oro76 shows [ 6s, Qs ] a pair of queens
oro76 wins 42960 chips from main pot with a pair of queens [ Qs, Qd, Ts, 9h, 6s ]

This oro76 had been playing ATC and had been allin so many times I was just fed up with
his constant stealing and when he was called he sucked out so many times on river I just
called his allin with two cards to go and with outs, wrong I know but hell sometimes you
get so fed up of waiting for a a hand which even if best starting hand gets suckered with
a donces call?? I can see that from comments posted it looks as if playing in these is
now becoming a luckbox of an affair.....nice blog styxle

Where do I fit under your system Champstone. I'm a good player who you can assume is
playing any hand 2-7 suited and up lol.

I didn't mean Luvin when I said that. I should have worded what I said better. I meant
that in general higher stakes tournaments tend to have better structures and better
players. I miss Poker Stars too. I was never a fan of it either. I just want to go back to
grinding 6-8 tournaments at a time on a major site and playing at my usual stakes. I would
be willing to give up half of my bankroll stuck on Full Tilt if I could take the other
half and put on it Poker Stars and play there.

luvin cash tables...i dont care if the player who donks me calling my preflop bet holdin
J7 off gets his stack taken off him the next hand...i love playin against one donk....but
playin against 5 at once makes donk dodgin nigh on impossible long term.

the altenative is to go all in pre with every premium hand...but then we end up in the
same situation as 10bbs in a tourney....bingo...and the principally italian bingo muppets
on luvin seem to comprise 50% of every cash table i sit at.

the tourneys....and my main game is the 200gtd...have a far better standard of play than
the cash tables...a lower % of italians per table....ya see the same faces game after
game...from all over the world...i have even started tappin with some of em..lol...

thats why the tourneys are attractive for me...

i tag the good players so i can put them on strong pre flop aand flop hands . every1 else
i assume has 2 sooted cards tat range from 2-7 on up .

On Luvin Cash tables I find what Champstone said to be completly accurate. You might very
well get donked but that player is unlikely to be able to get away with that for very
long. In a tournament often, once is enough. In a cash game once is nothing.