Blog comments - So was this the right...

I wouldn't have folded to be honest I love getting pocket queens but maybe that's just me

u prolly were slightly ahead or way behind. with only 2700 invested in the pot its a good fold.

I get the feeling bassplayer was trying to tell you guys something lol , looks like ya heard him loud and clear !

I would of folded in a hearbeat , he's got 2 playes still in and he goes all in ??? , that's a clue , good fold , gl

i am thinking you had some kind of read on this player which caused you to fold. you did have him covered but it looks to be late in the tourney so all in all i would say good fold

btw how did you finish

i dont think i can say if you did the right thing or wrong thing. If it was me i wouldnt of folded, my experience in that situation is that more than 50 percent of the time u have the best hand as people will push big time with JJ or TT lot of times or AK (suited maybe). Its POSSIBLE ur behind, but in the long run against all players in general u r ahead i believe if you call there. also sometimes u will suckout anyways LOL. and sometimes you will lose even tho u call with best hand.

Good lay down (I hope it was anyhow).

It would depend on how close I was to the money (or bubble)....I'd find it very hard to fold but QQ is not the best hand to put all your chips in the pot. Then again, it's called gambling for a reason!

Highly disciplined play on your part. You deserve to money for plays like that. This kind of reraise before you and the point of the tourney suggested strongly that your hand may have been dominated. I'm thoroughly impressed by your lay-down. On the other hand you may have been pushed out skillfully by an A/rag off or a smaller pair

I would have called as fast as I could have clicked the button. Hes out of position with the ability to put a squeeze on dalejr and you. I would guess 88-JJ. Possibly the AK...No way he would raise all in with KK or AA. He assumes you cant call, since you didnt re-raise, and with you behind dale, it becomes extremely difficult for dale to call unless he has AA, KK. I have seen this play with absolute crap, because it is so difficult for either player to call.

Now, I would have re-raised pre, but after just calling and getting that action, I would have loved it. Huge opportunity to get nice stack. You know me though, usually on the other side of the fence.

I think in this situation it comes down to the player who raised. If they were a loose-aggressive player who raised a lot, I'm taking a shot. The problem with this hand is this, you could be up against AK. If it's AK, I'm putting my money in even though it's a coin-flip. I would take the pair over AK every time. Many players play 88,99, 10's, JJ's, AQ and AK stronger than they would even play KK or AA. I only see two hands out there that crush you. In every other situation you are ahead. So again it comes down to the player, your read and your resolve. Either way it took as much guts to fold the queens as it did to play them all the way. That kind of courage is what separates good and great players.

Great fold or great squeeze play. Did you have good reads on these guys?

fold , because they had enough to bully but why would they need to bully when you only have 4k more than they do,for them to bet all in for $2750 and risk getting knocked out of tourney and not have a decent hand to play, i would find it hard to believe that they wouldnt have,but they could have had 93 and you still could have lost, it goes to show that you have great patience and thats what pays i feel !00% you did the right thing this early on in tourney.Why get knocked out with any hand pre-flop unless your in the money and really there isnt any hand i would want to go all in with anytime any way before flop,take your 2750 chip loss and make it back later.

Only mistake here was winner sticking their head out to be chopped off, didnt happen that time but im sure it soon did, if they continued playing like that.

Was a great plan but risky plan even though it worked for them

I guess that bad dog went to bed without telling us lol , that's ok , I still wouldn't call my whole stack there with only a pair of Q's when I only put 2750 in , I don't flip it unless I have to lol

My instinct tells me it was a weak calll, probably as others say his bet suggests 88,10's or even JJ. By placing himself allin is to suggest a top pp AA?KK? but in reality from his position it was to scare off potential bets from a somewhat weak hand. But as for taking on his all-in, no I would fold my QQ. Better to have chips when I make the play with QQ than risk my chips against maybe a lucky flop.

Knowing you watchdog, you thought similar and lived to fight a stronger play!!

Some odds % -

QQ /AA - 17.5/81.97

QQ/KK - 17.83/80.90

QQ/JJ - 82.40/17.08

QQ/AK - 53.88/45.65

QQ/TJs - 80.93/18.70

So unlless he had AA or KK you were either miles ahead or a slight favourite. Did you make the right play? We will never know. As long as you feel good about your choice then it was a good move.

Early on in the tourn, I would have called. However, you'd been playing for more than two hours by then and built a good stack. Quality fold.

Hehe, just done a lil' research and found out where Watchdog and Bassplayer finished respectively....

With an early position raiser, and after a call, an all in re raiser, there is no reason to gamble here, they both have signaled strength, and although a strong starting hand, Queens are easily beat, I am folding here, I am not a fan of going all in pre flop, especially with an average size stack, or calling off my chips, I prefer to be the one doing the betting when my chips go in the middle.

Whether he had a good starting hand, or not, it was a strong positional play on bassplayer09's part , give him cudos for a strong move that netted him about 5 grand. I guess you are glad you didn't raise when it was your turn, even tho it might have changed the outcome of the hand, if bassplayer really didn't have anything except position. He read a small early position pot sized bet, and a call, as 2 hands he could buy out of the pot, and was right, this time !....Good question !

...........play on ......Tc...........

Its a questionable fold to me. I can understand why you made the lay down, but at the same time your M is only 10 you are in the Orange zone which means you have to be looking for a spot to get your money in. Bass player played the hand badly by rasing so much when he was only raise like 1,750. I think you should of reraised when it was your turn. I mean lets evaluate the hands of bass player is likely to push here with A/A, K/K, A/K,Q/Q,J/J, probably as far down as too pocket nines. If this is the case you can beat 4/7 hands which gives you a percent of roughly around 60 percent of the time you are ahead. The reason I am leaning to tens here is because if he had A/A it would look like he would want to get more money in the pot so a raise to 3,500 or 3,600 would of been reasonable. His all in meant weakness in some senses because with A/A or K/K you will be trying to get more money. and the small raise from the first guy acutally opened up the chance for him to do that.

of course this is my opinion

Like some of the prior posters I would like to now what type of player you thought "bassplayer09" was and what his range of hands for this type of play was. Next I would like to now your plan for the hand was when you called. Were you planning to fold to any re-raise from the blinds?

Next I would like what phase the tourney was in. Had the itm bubble been broken? If the money bubble had not been broken, that would weigh heavily to a fold.

If you were in the money, unless I'm very certain he has AA or KK I would call. Here are my reasons. You are getting favorable pot odds against any hand other than AA or KK. You need to call about 19,500 into a pot that is about 30,000 which is about 3 to 2 odds. You are at least a slight favorite against AK or a big favorite against all of the other hands. If you hand hold up you would become the table chip leader and a significantly better chance to make the final table or win the tourney. If you fold you only have about 24,000 in chips which means you'll need another good hand in the next 30 or so or the blinds will have devoured your stack.