I came across this article yesterday and thought with all the blogs that I have seen around lately that I would post this article in hopes that everyone will read it. She said it soo much better than I could have. Here's the link for the original article by Linda Geenen http://pokerworks.com/article-312.html
"How many times have you sat at a table and listened to players talk about the hand they threw away while the hand is in progress? Or listened to them openly discuss what the best possible hand is after the River card is on the table and the action is in progress? Or even had them question you as to what you have when they are facing a bet from you and there is a field of players behind them yet to act? “Do you have two pair?” or “Did you flop a straight?” or any number of questions in which they are trying to gather information about your play.
You could be thinking that this really has no bearing on the game or any effect on the hand so why even get into it. What if the 5, 6, 7, 9 of spades are on the board, it takes one card to make a straight flush and you have it? Yoo Hoo! A loose player that has been raising every hand leads the bet and a tight player raises. You are licking your chops. You have them right where you want them. But a player that is not even in the hand pipes up with, “Who has the 8 of spades?”
Ouch! It is possible that neither of the players even thought about the possibility of a straight flush until loud mouth had to alert the world that it was possible. You have finally made a huge hand and have people betting and raising into you and while they may not believe you have the card, they have been alerted to the fact that it is possible. You just lost action on your hand.
And what about the player that cannot wait to announce to the world that he threw away 8-4 when the board comes 8-8-3. Perhaps you were in the Big Blind and check raised the Flop trying to run a bluff and make your opponent put you on an 8 but now the big mouth has told the world that he threw an 8 away.
There is another kind of talk at the table that should never happen but it does all the time. It goes like this: “How could you make that call?” or “Just keep playing that way!” or some drivel where they are implying that the player that beat them is an idiot for even buying chips and taking a seat in the game.
Amazingly these players that try to belittle a player for winning a pot are the ones that consider them selves to be ‘pros’. This kind of talk is very bad for a game and can cause a new, inexperienced player to leave the game. No one wants to be the brunt of comments just because they won a pot.
And what about the player that wants to give poker lessons while the game is in progress? They are everywhere, instructing, teaching, and pointing out the folly of a player’s ways at the end of a hand. “You should have raised with that before the Flop!” or “Why didn’t you check, you could have gotten more money by check raising than by betting?”
Poker is a social game. Conversation is part of the game but that conversation has boundaries."
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nice blogg hun and you right
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as i hopless at poker but learning fast
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I AGREE WITH IT COMPLETELY!!!
I quote from #16 on Poker Stars tournament rules :
I agree with you and the article completely. If someone doesn't see that there is the possible straight flush on the board, well then that's their problem.
And as for being derogatory towards other players about the way they play or tagging them with an additional "nickname" is completely uncalled for. Most other sites will remove chat privileges or even ban the person depending on how serious the offense is.
sneak, I was in the same situation last night in a sng. And I kept thinking hahaha, you don't have the 4th one I folded it! But it allowed me to keep a better eye on the guy who was betting like he did.
Outlaw, I couldn't agree more. I think we often forget who is at the other end of the computer playing too. That's one thing that Railbirds has shown me, that the players on the other end are often times some very wonderful people. And yes, everyone deserves a little R E S P E C T!
i know what you mean. Some chowderhead did it to me a few weeks ago. It was an omaha freeroll and i flopped a str8 an another player flopped the same hand but also had a flush draw. before he called my flop bet he typed in the chat box "bye bye" the cards dealt out and he missed the flush and we split the pot. I replied something to the effect about his ego was going to get the best of him and then he started spouting off about percentages and so forth. I let it go at that because arguing we these people is pointless.
Some time later I was in hand and flopped another str8, QJ in my hand 8 9 10 rainbow flop (this afformentioned player was not involved in this hand). I bet and got 1 call. turn card was a King. I led out with a bet, all in i think due to amount in pot and my chip stack. The other player ponders and the other guy types in "call he has QJ" The guy in the hand is still thinking and then calls and shows 3 kings, river card gives him a full house. I wasnt real concerned with the beat but the guy acted like he did nothing wrong calling out potential hands. I typed in the chat box (as an observer) that what he did was against full tilt rules and all he said was "it was a good read wasnt it" "get over it you lost"
I won't print his screen name here but if you want it I'll be happy to give it to you so you watch out for this guy
A great article
Just hope EVERYONE reads it now