what did i do wrong with them both?
Full Tilt Poker Game #12654177657: Tournament Dollar Freeroll (94089315), Table 98 - 2000/4000 Ante 500 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:38:51 ET - 2009/06/06
Seat 1: POKERALISS (33,940)
Seat 2: aussiestorm69 (25,497)
Seat 3: Rudi_Nsk (37,260)
Seat 4: knockbridge (80,329)
Seat 5: Spoiled Dog 4 U (53,345)
Seat 6: rouger23 (82,222)
Seat 7: a1mellow (92,057)
Seat 8: khicks1963 (20,359)
Seat 9: gotchaAAs (72,427)
POKERALISS antes 500
aussiestorm69 antes 500
Rudi_Nsk antes 500
knockbridge antes 500
Spoiled Dog 4 U antes 500
rouger23 antes 500
a1mellow antes 500
khicks1963 antes 500
gotchaAAs antes 500
gotchaAAs posts the small blind of 2,000
POKERALISS posts the big blind of 4,000
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aussiestorm69 
aussiestorm69 raises to 8,000
Rudi_Nsk folds
knockbridge folds
Spoiled Dog 4 U folds
rouger23 folds
a1mellow folds
khicks1963 calls 8,000
gotchaAAs folds
POKERALISS folds
*** FLOP *** 
aussiestorm69 bets 16,997, and is all in
khicks1963 calls 11,859, and is all in
aussiestorm69 shows
khicks1963 shows 
Uncalled bet of 5,138 returned to aussiestorm69
*** TURN *** 
*** RIVER *** 
aussiestorm69 shows a pair of Eights
khicks1963 shows a pair of Eights
khicks1963 wins the pot (50,218) with a pair of Eights
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 50,218 | Rake 0
Board:
Seat 1: POKERALISS (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: aussiestorm69 showed and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 3: Rudi_Nsk folded before the Flop
Seat 4: knockbridge folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Spoiled Dog 4 U folded before the Flop
Seat 6: rouger23 folded before the Flop
Seat 7: a1mellow folded before the Flop
Seat 8: khicks1963 (button) showed and won (50,218) with a pair of Eights
Seat 9: gotchaAAs (small blind) folded before the Flop
Full Tilt Poker Game #12654184578: Tournament Dollar Freeroll (94089315), Table 98 - 2000/4000 Ante 500 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:39:20 ET - 2009/06/06
Seat 1: POKERALISS (29,440)
Seat 2: aussiestorm69 (5,138)
Seat 3: Rudi_Nsk (36,760)
Seat 4: knockbridge (79,829)
Seat 5: Spoiled Dog 4 U (52,845)
Seat 6: rouger23 (81,722)
Seat 7: a1mellow (91,557)
Seat 8: khicks1963 (50,218)
Seat 9: gotchaAAs (69,927)
POKERALISS antes 500
aussiestorm69 antes 500
Rudi_Nsk antes 500
knockbridge antes 500
Spoiled Dog 4 U antes 500
rouger23 antes 500
a1mellow antes 500
khicks1963 antes 500
gotchaAAs antes 500
POKERALISS posts the small blind of 2,000
aussiestorm69 posts the big blind of 4,000
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aussiestorm69 
Rudi_Nsk folds
knockbridge folds
Spoiled Dog 4 U folds
rouger23 calls 4,000
a1mellow calls 4,000
khicks1963 folds
gotchaAAs folds
POKERALISS folds
aussiestorm69 raises to 4,638, and is all in
rouger23 has 15 seconds left to act
rouger23 calls 638
a1mellow calls 638
*** FLOP *** 
rouger23 checks
a1mellow bets 4,000
rouger23 has 15 seconds left to act
rouger23 calls 4,000
*** TURN *** 
rouger23 checks
a1mellow checks
*** RIVER ***
rouger23 bets 14,000
a1mellow folds
Uncalled bet of 14,000 returned to rouger23
rouger23 wins the side pot (8,000)
*** SHOW DOWN ***
rouger23 shows a straight, King high
aussiestorm69 shows a straight, Queen high
rouger23 wins the main pot (20,414) with a straight, King high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 28,414 Main pot 20,414. Side pot 8,000. | Rake 0
Board:
Seat 1: POKERALISS (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: aussiestorm69 (big blind) showed and lost with a straight, Queen high
Seat 3: Rudi_Nsk folded before the Flop
Seat 4: knockbridge folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Spoiled Dog 4 U folded before the Flop
Seat 6: rouger23 showed and won (28,414) with a straight, King high
Seat 7: a1mellow folded on the River
Seat 8: khicks1963 folded before the Flop
Seat 9: gotchaAAs (button) folded before the Flop
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14 comments
When you went all-in in the first hand, what did you think you had? for that matter why in the world would you raise the 8000 preflop on J-Q off suit? A simple check with your J-Q off suit was pretty likely to let you see the flop for free, If not, and your opponent raises some ridiculous amount like 8000 you fold and wait for a playable hand. Honostly I dont understand why either of you would pay so much on high cards? But I would be courious what kind of notes they had on you before this hand?. If anyone has figured out how much you over play hands like this, they will be calling you a lot!
And now that I've seen the second hand I would suggest re-reading the above answer..... As long as you keep doing everything in your power to get all your chips in on any 2 cards you are going to find yourself on the losing end of them
in the first hand raising to 8K with your chip stack and your QJ off suit out of positon is a problem , it was a total flip , he got lucky , you didn't , I like to get my money in better than 50/50 , gl
I think evenone has hit the nail on the head with this one.....1st move was poor, if you wanted to steal the blinds you have got to have a tight table image to make a move like that...did you??? And if you are in a position to make that move the raise should have been more, with your stack size it would have had to be an all-in move.
2nd.....correct move but you had to gamble being so short. You shouldn't have been in that position in the first place though.
Peace
arb
Ok 2nd hand nothing to do, you were in the bb and had 1600 left it was autopush preflop.
But the 1st hand was rather badly played. The blinds are pretty high, 2K and 4K, and you only have 25K stack, so 6BB. Your 1st to act, UTG, and you only minraise, while you shouldve shoved there. You need blinds desperatly and 2 picture cards will certainly do it! You can opt to fold too, but then your in the BB next hand and have only 17K left when they pass you. But calling or minraising is def the worst option in my book.
Oh and a lot of players tend to forget that QJ is a pretty bad hand, and easily dominated. If you had a healthy stack, its an instafold in early position.
The first hand I would have just mucked. Too easy for someone to have a hand that dominates it. You'll then have bad position and if you hit one of your cards and get called, you'll have no idea where you are at. One other thing about the first hand, your stack is low enough that you don't have enough chips left behind to scare anyone if you raise preflop. In that situation, you should either move all in or fold.
Second hand, you had already put most of your chips in, only thing you could do was put in the rest and hope to get lucky. Unfortunately it wasn't your day.
Just my opinion, hope it helps.