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dear bird,

only shocker about these sukouts is that it wasn't Full Tilt......!

God, I love razzing that site.....lol

better luck next time bird......

the limpitt

1st hand played perfectly.. nothing you can do about it.... although you've blinded down to only 5.5bb's... and normally you'd want to be looking at trying to get your money in sooner than this, while you still might have some fold equity (obviously not in this situation though.. A3o totally weird play here but appears to be trying to get it allin with someone preflop by min-raising and looking for someone to push back on him... a terrible play by him imo.. he should be shoving or folding here,... nothing else). [How 'freakyfish00' figures your play is bad here is beyond me... you're super shortstacked although the other 'shorties' 'min raise' does smelll of a monster (AA KK QQ),.. as he is very short-stacked as well. Your read on him was obviously good.... seeing here that he is obviously 'bad', lol.

In 2nd hand, your raise isn't big enough preflop here with one limper in ahead of you. Normally you want to be raising 3xbb +1bb (+1bb for each limper in ahead of you). BUT.. on a $1 game on Stars... I'd recommend raising it up at least 4x in early levels (+1bb here... in other words raise to '200'). Your goal should be to thin out the field in hopes of just having one caller and seeing the flop headsup (where a c-bet might take it down if you miss the flop and texture of flop and style of opponent make c-betting the right play (not always so though... if opponent is a huge calling station, there's really no point in even c-betting them in many circumstances... better to conserve chips so that you'll have more of them when you do get them in on a good hand).

As played... when your raise is called and then the initial 'EP min-raiser' goes & 'min-raises' again... In my opinion you should be just shoving it allin at this spot (there's now more than enough chips in the pot that you'd be wanting to take it down here & now... if you get one caller... so be it... there is enough equity that it is worth it).

Sometimes on a table of this nature, you're better off not even raising it up much preflop with something like AK (if you know that preflop raises aren't being respected)... instead just limping behind or perhaps looking for another opponent to raise it up.. .then reraise them). When playing on a table with a bunch of Loose/Pass. players, I will call behind limpers with stuff like AJs, AQo in position in early levels (key here is 'early levels'). I'm folding ATo.

AS played (getting back to as the hand has been played here).. okay so you've just called behind preflop and now the flop comes down. Thing to be concerned with here is obviously the potential for a flush draw with a multi-way pot so for sure you want to be playing your TPTK hard here in this spot & you do in fact raise it up a bunch (this is good.... BUT...>>> you haven't left yourself anything behind to push with on the turn, (in other words,.. if you've got a donk calling with a flush draw, the amount you have left in your stack isn't big enough to bet with and to have him be making an error to call you). Why not just shove it allin on the flop??? Get what I'm saying??? Otherwise... call on the flop & shove the turn if the spade doesn't hit (cuz for sure the donks who are clueless about the odds of hitting their flush are also clueless as to how big of a bet it is profitable for them to call... pretty sure they're not working in the implied odds here either,.. which really aren't there anyways because effective stack sizes are too small).

IN mircro stakes there will be many, many times where you're getting your money in good, only to lose to a donk sucking out on you. It's just the way it is. Part of becoming a good poker player is accepting the realities of the game... ie. shyt happens and with shytty players it happens often. I still do believe there are other ways of looking at how you've played the second hand example here. ***** Something to think about while in a hand... always project ahead in the hand..... when sizing your bets, think about what you will have left behind (in your stack)... if it's going to be less than say a 1/2 pot bet on the turn (especially in a 3-way pot like this) then perhaps you should shove it allin on the flop.

Occassionally I will take pictures of some of the badbeats i take and then will look at them in the future, usually for a good laugh. I have literally hundreds upon hundreds of them, most making these ones look like nothing. In micro stakes, alot of players will call down to the river with TPMK & worse.. MPTK (Top pair, Med. Kicker, 'or good kicker',... and even Med Pr. Top Kicker). This is a good thing. THese are the donks who will be paying you off in the micro stakes. As mentioned earlier,.. accepting the realities of poker (ie. they will hit their 1 of 5 outs.. 3outs... 2outs.. etc. on occassion).. is part of the game. When playing SNG's & MTT's you have to just try to move past it...and do so very quickly (comes with practise) so that you will again be playing optimally and in 'the here & now' in future hands or games.

GL on the tables!

PS... I've had it happen badly, four times in succession, being chip leader on final table with top 5 or 6 getting paid (ie. 45 entrants or so)... 1st of 8.. only to get hit real bad 4 times in succession (ie. losing 80/20's.. (KK losing to 33, etc.)) to go out off the bubble. I've had it happen where I got in good sitting in mid-field in 7 of 9 MTTs on one day, and getting called down really lightly and being sucked out on just off or on the bubble (with opponent risking tourney life while shorties are still on the table and making hero calls with low pkt. prs., and weak Aces and then sucking out... why do they do it?.. how knows... probably cuz they are poor players).

GL in the next one!

Top this: Rivered out of tourney 22 straight times. Some(but not very many) actually had legitimate hands to be in the pot,but gettin' called with garbage like 6-3 suited,pr of 2's,and other such trash and gettin' beat out and ousted, to that a hearty BS!

I no longer have a $ acct. at PS and probably never will again. And I've removed PS from my computer.

That will stop the BS bad beats.

dear catfish,

right on dude....

I was reaching the point last week where I was seriously considering uninstalling Full Tilt....It was just getting SO DAM RIDICULOUS.....!

I was able to tell myself what I was gonna get beat by and when it was gonna happen...having AA cracked by K5 really stang....preflop all in call(I guess im supposed to fold AA preflop eh?)...

So today with the usual beats starting my day (AGAIN!), I just said screw it and went out and hit some golf balls instead....HaHa Full Tilt.....!

After 6 months experience on Full Tilt in particular, I can't for the life of me see why ANYONE would consider depositing funds onto this "sukout" site......I'm sorry, I just can't....and if you do, please don't come back to me and say yep, mrlimpitt, you WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG......

As an addon to this comment, Pokerstars flops SEEM to be fairly random, while PartyPoker is definitely following along with similar "flop patterns" as Full Tilt....prolly the same RNG software?

So good for you truthskatez....at least SOME of the people are waking up around here to the overly amount of sukouts that are occurring on some of these sites.....I for one am still calling for governmental oversite and auditing by "independent" government inspectors into the "fairness and randomness" of ALL of these online poker sites......

And of course we'll get the usual "your just a donkey" rebuttals.....but I'll tell you one thing, even this donkey ain't dumb enough to deposit on these shady sites!!!!!!!

the limpitt

And of course we'll get the usual "your just a donkey" rebuttals.....but I'll tell you one thing, even this donkey ain't dumb enough to deposit on these shady sites!!!!!!!

the limpitt

Maybe.. just maybe it's because you're not a good enough player to win consistently. Why would 'winning players' choose to not make an initial deposit? Personally I'm extremely glad I was able to deposit when I did and only wish I'd deposited more so as to not be stuck trying to grind the super micros for so painfully long. I'm also very grateful for having the oppurtunity to play on Fulltilt poker at the convenience of a couple of mouse clicks away... you really can't beat that.

And of course we'll get the usual "your just a donkey" rebuttals.....but I'll tell you one thing, even this donkey ain't dumb enough to deposit on these shady sites!!!!!!!

the limpitt
I'm also very curious as to how you can possibly give a fair assessment of a site when your experience is limited to 10cent MTTs & $1 buyin SNGs? Of course you're going to see a zillion suckouts in those games, due to all the complete rookies who are wanting to call off with ridiculous hands, not even knowing the difference... not even knowing they're playing horribly.

dear tiltaholic,

hey dude, can't you come up with your own blog, for god's sake?

Maybe that's the problem on these poker sites, just too many no brains who can't make up their own material....

or r u just gonna paste and copy this too as your rebuttal?

lol....

the limpitt

P.S. As well tiltaholic i still haven't been able to find u on poker rankings just so I know how great of a player u r.....any help forthcoming on that one....or is your real Tilt name anonymous for a reason? As I've mentioned before, a few of the resident guru's were slogging my game and lo and behold when I checked up on them they had crappier stats than me, u wouldn't be another one, would u?

I removed my site names from my page to keep Rb members from begging from me as it was starting to happen frequently (after helping a few of them out with ways in which to improve upon their game).

My only suggestion to yourself would be to try keeping more of an open mind.... there are players out there who are making money with online poker which would have one believe that they could to if they kept an openmind and put in the time & study in order to do so.

Sorry if I hurt your ego. I was just stating that you might find a BIG difference in the play as you move up in buyins and that it is really not fair to judge a site based upon the donk super micros (obviously.. so how are you able to do so? was what I was curious about).

Please.. let's not hi-jack OP's post here. I was only hoping to assist OP with a couple of suggestions on how he could look at things differently, hoping to be a positive influence by doing so. Maybe he was only looking for a shoulder to cry on or to find someone who believes that online poker is rigged?? If that's the case (although I doubt it), maybe you'd be better to help him out than I. I'd prefer to not turn OP's post into a pissing contest so if you want to know something about my game, maybe I'll answer your pm although be forewarned, I don't waste any time at all with folks who want to belive the sites are rigged. Too closed-minded for me thanks.