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Pokerstars = Jokerstars???

Nov 18, 2008 1:22 am Report Abuse

Hi to all.

What's going on in Pokerstars???

That was the Pokerroom, where i used to play poker. I've done that now for 2 years. Since i try to play poker more seriously, my bankroll got a bit bigger, without transferring money. I could cash in some MTT's and i could win in SNG's too. I began after playing a year really bad, with 5$ in my bankroll, which is now grown to 300,-$.

But in the last two months, i think there is something going on in pokerstars. There are so many unbelievable hands, (Unbelievable like AAAA loses against Royal Flush) that can't be true. It is not only once, that happens so often, that I think now, it is better to play in another pokerroom.

Since I play poker in FullTilt.com, my bankroll is growing again. Besides, the people there are not so aggressive like in pokerstars. There you get blamed the whole time. That's not fine. I couldn't see that on FullTilt since now.

I'd like to ask you, if you have made the same experiences.

Have a nice week and have a good game.

Good Luck.

Bjoern (house71bb)



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lukester22 Nov 18, 2008 1:27 am
I think that bad beats are just part of poker. Crazy hands happen occasionally and it is just something you have to deal with when you play poker a lot. I personally prefer to play on Full Tilt but it has nothing to do with bad beats.
carlsen1989 Nov 18, 2008 1:28 am
well i have seen some unbelievable beats but thats poker man good luck to you on full tilt
Jonzer Nov 18, 2008 1:28 am
Welcome to full tilt, its where the pros live
Fcumred Nov 18, 2008 1:30 am

I know what you mean but what is going on I couldnt tell you.

I am finding hat the unbelievable hands always seem to happen to me when I am just about to go deep in a tournement and looking at a nice prize.

The number of times I've had the bad beat suck out to stop me doubling up and getting into the serious money is unreal..

Maybe its just coincidence but like you, I am seriously thinking of giving PS a miss.

chipanddeal Nov 18, 2008 1:39 am
I play at pokerstars also and I agree with you. I have noticed more bad beats. I play at full tilt too and it has not changed. I paly live once a week and find that it is much easier to win with a lesser hand. Maybe it is because it is easier to chase people out in a live game.
ChrisKub Nov 18, 2008 1:47 am
I just saw a video of wsop where where AAAA lost to royal flush. So I tend to think it happens everywhere. My other hunch is that a site like pokerstars usually averages 100,000 people and deals millions of hands a day and probabilities of such hands are more likely.
getoffmytbl Nov 18, 2008 1:49 am
i know what you mean thats why im new here hope to do better and build my bankroll,jokerstars is a bunch of crap and it needs to be banned if u asked me but i dont control that.but good luck to everyone on here
coopster Nov 18, 2008 1:52 am
I am the complete opposite. My bankroll at Fulltilt no longer exists and my bankroll at stars has done nothing but rise...
BigButt Nov 18, 2008 1:56 am
trust me in this, It has happened to me at all the sites I have played. The fact you have seen it doesn't mean a hill of beans. It just means you got plugged into the wrong table at the wrong time, Thats all. So chill out for a while, take a break. The cards will always be the same.
Sagger Nov 18, 2008 1:58 am
Started out playing on Pokerstars and it did seem that you got alot of bad beats there. Started playing on fult tilt and it is a much better site.
Fcumred Nov 18, 2008 2:01 am

I just saw a video of wsop where where AAAA lost to royal flush. So I tend to think it happens everywhere. My other hunch is that a site like pokerstars usually averages 100,000 people and deals millions of hands a day and probabilities of such hands are more likely.

Yes but its all relative.

Just because theres more people playing its doesnt mean each individual players chances of suffering a bad beat rise... The odds of a suck out happening to you with each hand remain exactly the same whether theres 200 or 200,000 people playing all at once.

My concern is about how come its getting to the stage when I can predict when the bad beats are coming. I go into hands, see what the opponent has and by the time the flop comes I know I've lost. Not I think I may lose. I KNOW I've lost

The other night I was in a great position to get into the serious money and I hit AK on the button the flop comes over A K 3. I raise, villain shoves all in. He turns over A 10 unsuited..Sure enough he hit the straight...

Its becoming too predictable now. Get close to the serious money and you get cracked by crap..

Only tonight I was in a tournament shortstacked but a double up would have got me a nice earner. What happens I get called by 10 5 offsuit when I've shoved with KK and he hits trips. And no he wasnt a big stack nor a shortstack. He had just an average hand. When I went to check his OPR rating guess what.. HE DIDNT EXIST..

I dont care what anyone says, somethings not right. No one would play in a $11 buy in tournament and call raises with 10 5 offsuit.. not on this earth..

BigButt Nov 18, 2008 2:11 am
well take a break then?
backloop Nov 18, 2008 2:12 am
my AAAA have never been cracked by a royal flush you had a really really bad bad beat but it depends not on the site
ez111ze Nov 18, 2008 2:12 am
Unfortunately I havent had that experience. However, i must say im not surprised because online poker is only online.
Rowanlea Nov 18, 2008 2:16 am

Well, I don't think there is any collusion by the sites,.. I do believe that some are far far luckier then others!,.. some here say I'm wrong, but I get the chips in with the best hand 75% of the time and yet I am a losing player?,..

I watch Gus Hansen raise large with junk and he gets called and wins!!!, that is luck,.. all the top pros are luckier then the rest of us,.. there is skill too, but when the skill is equal, the winner is lucky!

I think aggression is a part of it too,.. people get frustrated with an over aggressive player,.. but luck is the main factor,.. so gl y'all,.. Railbirds card: Qh

mechanic Nov 18, 2008 2:18 am
over the last 6 months my br on ps has gone way up while at the same time my br on ft has been totally decimated by suckouts an a very cold deck. on p.s. i very rarely suck-ouy but my hands that started ahead tend to stay there. i do get sucked out on on p.s. but it is not often. so what does the next 6 months hold for me i am thinking a complete flip-flop we will see. gl on an off the felts.mechanic
nodelay69 Nov 18, 2008 2:21 am
yes i agree poker stars has a lot of bad beats. I have seen the under dog winn 90 percent pf the time.
vinnypistol Nov 18, 2008 2:21 am
if you youtube bad beat + pokerstars or something to that effect, you get a lot of hits like a couple of full pages of sick beats on pokerstars. why these people decided to record this, i am unsure, but they show kq make a runner runner royal flush to beat KK in a preflop all in. crazy stuff. theyre all like that though. crazy river madness. one outers. its pretty sick.
XPOKERCHIC Nov 18, 2008 2:29 am
Occasionally is not how I see it. I have been bad beat everyday with hands that are very strange. I had aces cracked by unbelievable cards. It is getting so predictable that if you have a draw and someone goes all in you will get the card you chased. Not rigged, but predictable. X
houcowboy Nov 18, 2008 2:30 am
I think it's just the law of probabilities. I joined RB about 6 months ago and started playing both FT and PS because it seemed that most of the RBs prefer these 2 sites. I played the FRs and eventually built my FT BR to about $75, while my PS BR went nowhere. Today, my FT BR is below $1 and my PS BR is almost $100. I am fairly certain that my playing style is relatively consistent on both sites. The only real variable is the luck of the draw.

HouCowboy

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