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STOP MOANING START THINKING

Nov 16, 2008 2:58 pm Report Abuse

FROM ANNIE DUKE's BLOG

A friend of mine told me about a hand that knocked him out of a tournament recently. He had AK against 88. The flop came a King and the guy rivered an 8. My friend bemoaned to me that he lost the tournament to a guy who was over a 20 to 1 underdog. "Wow, that’s really unlucky!" I said. I felt really horrible for my friend who had gotten knocked out on such a long shot. Bad Beat, right?

The problem was that when I saw the tournament on TV it turned out that all the money had gone in before the flop. That means the hand was a race, basically either hand was even money to win. Granted, a King did flop and the guy did hit an 8 on the river. The order the cards fell is certainly painful. It is always hard to have your hopes raised so high only to have them dashed when the river takes the tournament away from you. But the fact is that when the money goes in before the flop it is a 5 card hand. 5 cards are going to hit the board no matter what and the order those cards hit is, frankly, irrelevant.

Why do I bring this up? Does it really matter if my friend wants to say he lost to a 20 to 1 shot instead of an even money shot? Yes, it really does. Critical thinking is one of the most important aspects of being a good player. This includes looking with a critical eye at every session of poker we play and not allowing our emotions to get involved in our evaluation and recounting of the poker we play. Bemoaning your bad beats is terribly unproductive. Poker has luck involved. That is a plain fact. Sometimes the vagaries of statistics bite you and a big favorite will lose.

Your opponent may only have a 5% chance of winning a pot but, guess what? That 5% is going to hit sometimes and sometimes it will be in a crucial situation. I know it is not fun but it happens to all of us. Obsessing about bad luck, and in the case of my friend, recreating history to be worse than it was is counterproductive. Pondering your ill fate takes you out of the game. It makes you feel like a loser. It undermines your confidence. And as a true competitor you need to always play with supreme confidence. You need to feel like a winner at all times. Rather than focus on bad luck, you should always focus on the play of hands. Perhaps you could have played the hand you lost differently and avoided the bad situation. In the case of my friend, he moved in before the flop. Wouldn’t it be more productive to explore the possibility of a flat call before the flop and a move-in after the flop when the board hit a King? I am not saying that is the right play, but exploring it as a possibility is certainly more productive than just moaning about the loss.

The fact is that I probably would have moved in pre-flop as well, in which case you just shrug your shoulders at losing the race. But a flat call certainly would have won the pot so it is worth exploring the option. You shouldn’t just explore hands you lose either. Sometimes we play hands we win poorly. Sometimes we play them well. Sometimes we play hands we lose poorly. Sometimes we play those well too. Focusing on the win or loss itself is not worth it and will undermine your ability to improve your game. Focusing instead on the play of the hand…well now you have my attention. That is the fastest road to improvement. As poker players, we all have a tendency to overemphasize skill when we are winning and bad luck when we are losing.

Don’t wallow in your bad luck when you are running poorly. Instead, take a good hard look at how you could have played differently. Sometimes you will find you just got unlucky. Other times you will find that you made mistakes that created the bad luck you might otherwise be unproductively wallowing in. Likewise, don’t celebrate your immense skill when you are winning. That is just as bad as wallowing in your bad luck. Take a cold hard look at how much of your good luck streak is a result of your playing really well and how much of it is just things mathematically going your way. So many times you will find that you were playing just as well while losing as while winning but you happened to win all your 50/50 shots on the winning streak while losing them on the losing streak.

Remember poker is a game that requires us all to be honest with ourselves. That kind of honesty is challenging in both our personal lives and our professional lives. But in poker, in particular, the kind of cold-hearted evaluation that eliminates emotional involvement in the outcome is supremely important to our growth as expert players.

----- ANNIE DUKE



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sexy_007 Nov 16, 2008 3:18 pm
YOU GO GIRL LOL
irnman76 Nov 16, 2008 3:24 pm
Thank you for this! I find it somewhat comical how someone feels like they "deserved" to win a pot... what everyone forgets is that this is gambling... to stake or risk money, or anything of value, on the outcome of something involving chance... anything is possible in life... anything... the only thing we have in control of our lives is our decision... at the end of the day you have to stick beside your decision, you are the one that made it nobody else forced you into this...

once again, thank you very much
good luck on the felt and good luck with your decisions
Blair
SiresnMe Nov 16, 2008 3:26 pm
No doubt that this is a great blog and I thank you for it. BUT: I have to disagree on one little point “Bemoaning your bad beats is terribly unproductive.” It may be unproductive as an instrument in poker, but venting sometimes can clear the mind for the next game.
Again, absolutely a great blog. Thank you for taking the time to present your views so well, and so detailed. I learned something from it.
Be safe / be well
Sires
Leahsl Nov 16, 2008 3:32 pm

Thanks for the responses, but not my words at all. It's all Annie Duke and it's just one way to look at it. Thought I'd offer up another opinion. Seemed it may be valuable to others as it was to me.

GL all and have a good day!

RansomHammer Nov 16, 2008 3:46 pm

THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS!!!!!

Over the past month or so, I've been working on a "thing" concerning positive thinking at the poker table, accountability to ourselves, etc.. This is right up that alley. Thank you for posting it.

Totenbach Nov 16, 2008 9:56 pm

It's a well written blog. As a small stakes amateur, I thought everyone understood that concept though. Getting it all in preflop is always a coinflip, no matter what your hand odds are after the flop, even if no-one hit a card.

Happened the other day in an RB tourney. I was well stacked, sitting in 9th out of 52. I believe I was playing really well and heading for that final table. I was making the right decisions, even laying down hands that were up and above opponents pre-flop. Felt like nothing could stop me.

At this point, I was up around 12k chips. Sitting with AA in hand and good table position. A smaller stack, around 5k, reraises the blinds about 3 times. I couldn't have hoped for more. Action gets folded around to me and I reraise him all in. We flip cards, he shows AJ hearts.

Now..by all accounts, you are happy with this result. Only problem was my wife and my sister standing behind me cheering. The flop comes down rainbow with only one heart in it. I am bout to say "could you please not celebrate too early??" My reason for this was it seemed odd but A's had been holding up almost the whole tourney to this point. I knew Full Tilt wasn't going to stand for this...lol.

Great odds still, I watch the turn come a heart. And lo and behold, the river follows suit. I have to tell you, at this point, the soul is crushed out of me. The hit took me from 9th and running strong to 32nd. Placed out of the money standings at this point (top 27 pay) and out of final table contenders. Well, I didn't berate my opponent. He was pot committed after his own raise really with a decent hand.

The problem? myself. I couldn't let it go. It left me hollow inside, thinking "After all this play?? How well i played all game?? Making all the right calls?? Have my strong hand smacked down??" It really hurts. Had I gotten past it, I could have still realized I was still in contention, that the way I was playing, I could have gotten back into it easily. I'm not sure, I just couldn't get past it.

A few hands later I end up all in on an open ended flush draw and lose. Some decent outs but not enough. If the A's hadn't happened, that would not have happened. I have to learn from these things. I could have easily scrapped my way back into contention had I just kept playing my game.

This is just a reason of why I think this blog is really helpful and I shall strive harder to remember it. And no, this is not a bad beat story disguised, just using it as a reference. The last day of poker has turned me back around again as I realize that when I play well, stick to my game plan and don't essentially " tilt quot; during a game, I am a decent poker player.

I hope this blog helps alot more than myself, read it closer if you need to.

RansomHammer Nov 25, 2008 3:41 am
Great Blog! Thanks for posting.
RansomHammer Nov 25, 2008 3:43 am

Aw, heres a bump to help turn you blue!

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topcat1954 Nov 25, 2008 4:02 am

I am not an Annie Duke fan, but this is a good, helpful post, especially the last paragraph !

....Tc....

leavem Nov 25, 2008 4:10 am

Thanks for posting this. I am guilty of it as well but too many times people don't think about all 5 cards on the flop, they see their hand and push, and then moan and complain about a "bad" beat. As we all know the only hand that can't be beat is a Royal Flush, everything else can. And when you push preflop it's a coinflip.


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