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Why is a Flush worth more than a Straight in Hold'em?

Nov 13, 2008 7:30 am Report Abuse

I often question the logic behind this. If I am on a gut shot straight draw I only have four outs. If I am lucky and have either a double gutter or an open ended straight draw I have eight outs. That is either about 16% or about 32% to hit after the flop. (On the turn or river). But if I have a flush draw on the flop, I have nine outs or 36% (approx.) to hit the flush. Obviously it is easier to hit the flush than a straight draw. So I often wonder why a flush is ranked higher than a straight. A straight is harder to hit post flop. Does it have to do with the odds of hitting a straight on the flop with two connected cards vs. hitting a flush with two suited cards? What are the odds of each?


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tobtech Nov 13, 2008 7:35 am
too much thinking for that question!!
tim4u Nov 13, 2008 7:37 am
you can have three to a str8 on board and the whole table could be holding a str8,,,the same can not be said for a flush
wablopaublo Nov 13, 2008 7:43 am
this is because there are so many ways in which you can make a str8 draw, unless you take all the 5s and 10s out of the deck, whereas to make a flush you must hold 5 of 13 cards no matter what.

i have often thought about what you said though whether trying to hit a open ended str8 draw or a gutshot, the odds are always mu more likely you will hit your flush if you hold 4 to the fludh after the flop. an intresting point to make about what you said as regards to flopping a flush. there is only one more card that would help to flop a flush, considering none of these outs are already gone, to flop a straight you have 12 cards whereas to a flush you have 11 cards .

just to add to this point AA is very dangerous if you flop another ace to make your set as any 2,3,4,5 or 10, j, Q, K leaves straight oppurtunity on the board therefore making it a very dangerous set to flop.

jamie macaskill
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Markie141 Nov 13, 2008 8:06 am

It has to do with the odds of being able to make a

hand out of the 52 cards in the deck ,

and the harder it is the higher it is ranked , it has nothing

to do with post flop odds of hands , gl

flipnine Nov 13, 2008 11:52 am
IT IS BASED ON THE ODDS OF GETTING THE CARDS BEFORE YOU ARE DEALT ANY.

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