Robbed again

Funny, I have those same complaints about JokerStars

I feel your pain.... it's non stop suck out city there.... unless I'M the one needing to suck out. *sigh*

Can you start posting your hand histories so we can give you proper feedback? Was it playchip or money table? What were the stacks/blinds, etc.

If you play low limit or freerolls, it happens more often.

More precise percentage is 6.8% but no matter how you put it it's a nasty beat. But...it happens. You're never good until he's 0%...that's just the way it is.

I hate losing that way. On the other hand I have also won that way.

quit whining, thats poker dog

mlk mn, you are obviously an asshole

booooooooowhhoooooooooooo!!

I see it more on JokerStars, especially close to the bubble when the big stack will suck out over 80% of the time.

You see it earlier especially in low limit tourneys and free rolls. Wild stupid plays that suckout -- I would swear the algorythms favor agressive play and the most aggressive usually wins -- even if it is stupid playing.

Now not to sound like Phil Helmuth and his infamous ragging on players from "Northern Europe at the 2008 WSOP, or Matsow's grumbling about online donks, especially European donks, I have noticed that far too many Europeans try to play like the Great Dane (or at least think they are) by calling anything if they have an Ace and hoping for a river or a suckout. Agressive poker has its place but come on!

Now, on PS, I did an analysis of one month's almost daily play (over 60 hours) and found some interesting stats:

I got a 2 or a 3 about 6x more often than an A or K -- over this length of time they should be even.

KK lost 71% of the time, even against garbage.

AA lost about 50% of the time.

With 21 KKs, I came up against AA 9 times! This is about 2,000 times more than the odds call for!

Once you get within 10% of the bubble, the larger stack will win a pre-flop all in about 82% of the time regardless of the cards the big stack plays. Runner runner is so common I can bet on it and win if I could figure how to make quick side bets!

I lose clear winning races about 80% of the time -- it should be about 50%. By clear races I mean thinks like AK vs J10, AK vs AQ, dominated hands or KK vs Q6.

I see AA vs KK almost once an hour in a tourney -- that should happen about once every 2,009 hands if memory serves. Now, I KNOW that I am not playing 2,000 hands an hour on ONE table!

As you can see, I share your frustration.

I am seriously considering a program to read PS hand histories and highlight the number of time hands "break the odds" vs "agree with the odds" to see just how out of whack things really are on PS. We have all heard the " party line" that we see far more hands per hour online and how that can "appear" to change the odds. Yet, when I look at a month's worth of hands and hours of play where I get cards that defy all odds, I have to wonder. For example, I have a solid week of hand histories where I got a 2, or a 3 in 7 out of 10 hands and extended out, 68 out of 100 hands, and 693 out of 1,000 hands. Talk about a cold deck!

Sorry for the vent...

The other day someone caught a 4 on the turn then another 4 on the river to beat me. I seem to get unlucky all the time so don't take it too hard.

Oh which also reminds me. How about getting pocket aces and raising all in hoping to at least double up. You get 2 calls. The first has pocket 9s. The other pocket aces! The one of us not all in is the one with 9s and of course the flop had a 9 so i lost!!!

I agree with raptive 100% by the wat did I mention I have been banned byPS for complaining about the garbage

on raptive's comments... yes i'll beleive you but if you really wanna see some weird chit go to absolute poker. pocket aces usually win 80% of the time but not on absolute. i pushed every time i had pocket aces and got busted 80% of the time. i think absolute poker is the most rigged site up here... its like playing bingo there

that is why we love poker .....hate poker......love poker.......hate poker hell i dont know