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good fold or bad betting?

Oct 23, 2008 3:55 pm Report Abuse

ull Tilt Poker Game #8620986345: Table Railbirds.com - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:52:19 ET - 2008/10/23
Seat 1: mipt ($2.40), is sitting out
Seat 2: DrAcula2024 ($2.15)
Seat 3: Grateful4life ($10.95)
Seat 4: etrong ($13)
Seat 6: playpkol ($2)
Seat 7: Cheefadarefa ($6.45)
Seat 8: flocon4 ($15.95)
Seat 9: pokerstewz ($2.15)
flocon4 posts the small blind of $0.05
pokerstewz posts the big blind of $0.10
playpkol posts a dead small blind of $0.05
playpkol posts $0.10
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to etrong KdKc
DrAcula2024 folds
Grateful4life folds
etrong raises to $0.30
playpkol folds
Cheefadarefa calls $0.30
flocon4 calls $0.25
pokerstewz calls $0.20
*** FLOP *** 9c7dAs
flocon4 checks
pokerstewz has 15 seconds left to act
pokerstewz bets $0.20
etrong calls $0.20
Cheefadarefa folds
flocon4 calls $0.20
*** TURN *** 9c7dAs 4s
flocon4 checks
pokerstewz checks
etrong checks
*** RIVER *** 9c7dAs4s 6c
flocon4 has 15 seconds left to act
flocon4 bets $5.50
pokerstewz folds
etrong folds
Uncalled bet of $5.50 returned to flocon4
flocon4 mucks
flocon4 wins the pot ($1.80)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.95 | Rake $0.15
Board: 9c7dAs4s6c
Seat 1: mipt is sitting out
Seat 2: DrAcula2024 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Grateful4life didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: etrong folded on the River
Seat 6: playpkol folded before the Flop
Seat 7: Cheefadarefa (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: flocon4 (small blind) collected ($1.80), mucked
Seat 9: pokerstewz (big blind) folded on the River




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jolietdusty Oct 23, 2008 4:07 pm
you raised and the called then with 2 gut shot st8 draws and an ace no one had bet I would have made a contiuation bet on the turn for about 50 to 80 cents just see if anyone would call and get a better read
Aeijip Oct 23, 2008 4:08 pm
my opinion he had the ace
jolietdusty Oct 23, 2008 4:13 pm

to big a bet for the ace no one will call that

bryan24 Oct 23, 2008 4:23 pm
I might have tried an informational raise after the flop . At the very least it would give the other guy some doubt...
philivory Oct 23, 2008 4:25 pm
I Woulda bet the turn to see where i stood ,if i get called then can slow down as your last to act , also woulda came in with a bigger raise of about 60 cents with cowboys ..... but i do think he had the ace at least with his big bet on the river or he mighta flopped a set and was slow playing ...you can never tell at these low limit games .
locochaser Oct 23, 2008 4:38 pm

I think you should have bet bigger after the flop to find out where you really stood. Betting just 20c made it too easy for players with draws or lower pairs to stick around in hopes of improving, or to bluff at you later.

Your fold against that big bet with an Ace on the board strikes me as correct, but it's quite plausible you were bluffed.

xcvbn1 Oct 23, 2008 5:26 pm
should have bet the turn, but good fold
i put him on 10 8
X_DragonKing Oct 23, 2008 5:49 pm
unless the guy was nuts, not sure your read on him at the table, id say good fold. not sure what he was playing there looks like a draw that he hit.
Tanuccio Oct 23, 2008 6:01 pm

Awful Bet 5.50 into a 1.80 pot,

This is one of two things

A. he had NOTHING

B. he had an ace and was trying to trap on the turn

No way he has a straight, why would he bet it like it like that? he's turning it into bluff.

This is an excellent example of why we need to pay attention at the tables, in this situation the reasoning behind the decision must be made entirely on previous hands played and shown by flocon4.

The Tan Man has Spoken

bwarlitner Oct 23, 2008 6:58 pm
you played it fine, don't bet to "see where you're at" that's terrible.
Smiley_Chicky Oct 23, 2008 7:14 pm

Depending on the table and the player, you may have been able to put on a hand with a larger raise pre-flop.

IMO, the fold was good. No need in wasting money with the A on board, and for a pot of 1.80, it's not worth the chance even if he's bluffing.

GL on and off the felt...

DesireToFire Oct 23, 2008 7:15 pm
Definitely a good fold, his overbet on the river looks fishy, but I think you were beat.
Brann6 Oct 23, 2008 8:23 pm

My guess, since he was BB, he called you with Ace-little. He probed with the flop bet and you called, which gave him pause. So, he checks the turn to see what you do and you check. Now, he figures either his ace might be good or you're weak, so he takes the river card....and pairs his rag.

He doesn't put you on a weak ace, IF you have one, but you may have AK,AQ,AJ,AT and might pay off his 2 pair with your TPTK (many players would do that.)

Good fold as played, but you might have taken it on the flop with a raise. If you'd raised him 3-4x his bet and he called, you'd have to put him on a big ace or aces up. But, you might have taken it away from him representing a big ace. That was your only chance.

Brann


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