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Yes poker is rigged!
Every hand you go all in with preflop can be beat
With 3 -4s on the flop i too would have stayed in. and when to river came up i most likely go all in and took you for more chips or went busted thats poker
Debating hands is one thing. Getting downright insulting is something altogether different.
No need for the insults and abuse..
Would you be on here whining if he'd had AA and your KQ had cracked the aces. No you wouldnt..
74 is connector???.. well ok, then 26 is also conector.. come on!!! how can you call 7bb.. yes 7! with these hand... i admit i was shorstack but 7bb, 7!!!! omg you defend his game??? he play well???.. ok im done with this... in the 20.00 hs rebuy tournament i was dealt AA... i pushed all in and one player calls me with Q7suit.... and he hit the flush in the river and when i told him he did he calls with these weak hand he told me... its a rebuy tournament.... to me these words are like.. lets play like stupid donkeys because i have too much money to make rebuys!!!
damn i have over 200$ without making any deposit and i know there are bad streaks but calling 7BB with 47 off.. no way dude, u cant justify that!!!!!!
Everyone makes calls they shouldnt at some stage. If you are telling me you havent, then you lying.
You raised all in with nothing. You wanted a coinflip. You got what you wanted.
OK 7 4 isnt maybe the best hand to have called with, I agree, but you were shortstacked. You must have been shortstacked for a reason. Perhaps you were playing too many hands, playing too loose...
Sometimes its all too easy to blame everyone else when the truth is, the problem maybe lies closer to home....
first of all i dont want a coinflip.... and kq suit is a very good preflop hand ( much better in a 6 table)..
ok this will be my last reply in this blog because im really done with some comments ( almost all the coments)
ok, ymhawk11, he wasnt risking 1/2 of his chipstack he was risking more than 1/3 of his stack, sorry for my mistake. however if you know your chances of winning the hand are less than 33% so 1 in 3 why will you risk those chips?? why cant he wait for a better hand like kj, kq, k10 even qj in order to make a call... im not saying that if my chistack was 200 instead of 775 and i bet 200 ( all in) his move is wrong, because he only have to pay 2bb, so its ok becase he didnt risk an important chipstack.. in fact i was betting 775 ( more than 7bb)
so my question is.... why did he call a bet knowing that his chances of winning are in the best case less than 35%??? he is understate me because i had a short chipstack?
If you didnt want a coinflip then why did you shove all in..
Oh sorry, you expected everyone to just fold and let you walk away with chips whenever you like.
He was simply defending his blinds. Are you saying you wouldnt do the same thing. Especially against a loose cannon whos blown half his chips in no time at all..
Yes he was behind, but you shoved all in knowing there was a risk that you could get called. If you got called you were in a coinflip situation and then you are open to the lap of the gods..
You were right to shove as the shortest stack, with that hand. But equally he was just as entitled to defend his blinds against someone who he perceived to be loose as hell
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u shoulda quit b4 writing this IMHO
Stop this rigged BS please such a waste of time. Go read the thousands of threads already posted on the same theme, before starting another, PLEASE!!!
Just another hand, grow up.
so my question is.... why did he call a bet knowing that his chances of winning are in the best case less than 35%??? he is understate me because i had a short chipstack?
Because he bloody well wanted to. Thats the answer. Like it or not, thats the way it goes. You arent going to get anything any plainer than that.
No, lewis, nothing is 'rigged'. It's just what online poker is turning into. Many players cannot stand to fold a hand - no matter what it is. ATC will do just fine - for many of them. Most of the online players are also very likely lotto players. 1 in 9,550,000 to win, but they play anyway.
Not at all 'justifying' it, but he was last act. All others had folded. I would have folded to you, but then, I'm an old school player and still save my cash for live play - mostly because of 'gambling' moves like this that sooooo .many players are using.
Your 35% 'may' be correct, didn't look it up. Problem here is - he hit his 35%. There HAS to be that 35% that will hit. This time - it did.
Look at elmooy's reply. Says they are 'connectors'. Actually, they are 'gappers', not connectors. Only Wikipedia defines them as 'connectors' and I've never seen Wikipedia play a hand of poker. All/most other pro and knowledgeable writers will call them gappers. Online poker is evolving, and it's getting ugly. Play anything, call anything, change term names, and call it 'gambling'.
Think about it - in MTT's, about 2/3 of nlhe players are busted the first hour. Why? It sure isn't because of their superior play gone bad - it's their bad play that stays bad. The miracle card one-outer hot streakers seldom, if ever, make the final tables.
So yes, in a way there IS an explanation. It's bad play that hits a low percentage of sukouts. The adrenalin junkies love this kind of play.
I just doubled up in an MTT (from being shorty) with an A,2o villain (no hearts) pushing against 3 hearts on the turn (to my hole hearts). Pushing his pair of 2's and calling my re-raise to his bet on those deuces. Go figure. Guess he couldn't stand to fold that HUGE pair with that MONSTER ace kicker.
So, the 'justification' is - it's ONLINE poker at it's finest.