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omaha for begginers part 2

Oct 4, 2008 3:49 pm Report Abuse

this time i am going to consider some of the nuances of PLO tournament play.

early stages

during the early stages of an omaha tournament the game is similarly to plo cash game, due to the size of the starting blinds relative to the average stack. during these stages it is common to see much more limping then you would in no-limit hold'em tournament. this is due in part to the pot-limit nature of the game, as when the blinds are small it is not possible to raise enough to force people out of the pot.

as such, it's possible to see alot of pots cheaply, but you dont want to fall into the trap of limping into every pot, i don't mind the occasional limp, especially from early position, but in late position i'd favour a raise, as i can judge how many people are going to see the flop. if i have a big-pair type hand i don't want to build the pot fecklessly, as if the action going to be multi-way i will have to surrender on most flops. if there has only been 1 limper i might try to isolate and get heads-up to the flop.

another instance where i'd favour a raise, even in the early stages of the tournament, is when i have a hand that is going to flop very well. i like to try to build the pot pre-flop, at least slightly, with a nice run down hands such as Railbirds card: 8hRailbirds card: 9cRailbirds card: ThRailbirds card: Jc or Railbirds card: AdRailbirds card: QhRailbirds card: JhRailbirds card: Td. i'm much more likely to raise these hands at this stage then i am my big -pair hands.


raising and re-raiseing

before i played my first omaha tourny somone said to me,` the key to plo tournaments is knowing how to play your aces' i've found alot of truth in that statement. many players will bust out of a plo tournament cursing their bad luck at their aces not holding up. when you still have a manageable stack you want to make sure you are the one busting aces, and not over-playing your own to your demise.

i have had alot of success playing aces - and in particular dirty aces - slowly in tournaments. while it's normal to bring them in for a raise, if someone has allready opened the pot in front of me, i will usually just call and see the flop. the problem with re-raiseing when play is deep-stacked is that you immediately alert your opponent to your hand. i'd surmise that in an average pot-limit omaha tournament the percentage of re-raises made by someone holding aces is up there around 80% or more.

whenever our foes have significant information about our hand we're playing at a massive disadvantage. by not electing to re-raise everytime we hold aces we allow our opponent to call us down in spots where they shouldn't and fold when they should be calling. of course i will sometimes re-raise with aces to keep my opponents guessing, but what allows me to do this is the fact i am also re-raising ( in position ) with many run-down type hands. these are the type of plays that are going to get less experienced opponents to make severe post-flop mistakes against us.

when re-raiseing in plo tournaments you really have two options: never re-raise with any hand or re-raise with a wide variety of hands that includes but is not exclusive to hands containing aces. while both are fine. i lean towards the latter because of the added chips you can win post-flop with the worst hand.

say for example an opponent raises in middle position and we re-raise on the button with Railbirds card: 6sRailbirds card: 7sRailbirds card: 8hRailbirds card: 9h. he is the only caller and we flop any sort of stright or two-pair combination - he's often going to put us on a completely different range of hands and may well misplay his hand accordingly. not only this, but when the flop does bring an ace or a bunch of high cards we are going to be able to steal the pot a very high percentage of the time, as he will give us credit for having hit the flop.


post flop play

another interesting aspect of plo tournament strategy is how to play after the flop when you where the pre-flop aggressor but have completely missed the flop. again, the strategy here differs greatly from no-limit hold'em. lets say we've raised with A-K in a hold'em tournament, picked up two callers and the flop has come 10-9-7 with a flush draw. we may well make a continuation bet a high percentage of the time here, hoping that our opponents have either a small pair or maybe two high cards and don't want to continue with the hand.

in plo, however, highly coordinated flops such as this are not conductive to a continuation bet if the action is anymore then two-handed. it's just to likely that one or more of your opponents has connected with this flop in some way. in plo, there's no shame in not continuing if you where the pre-flop aggressor. it's not weak play but shrewd play, conserving chips and adding credibility to the times you do continue on more broken flops such as K-7-2 or 6-6-3.

being aware of the texture of the board is very important. look out for spots on dry boards where you can pick up the pot and be wary of the draw-heavy boards that are likely to have connected with many of your opponents' hands.


bet sizing

the topic of continuation- betting brings me to one of my biggest gripes with the way people play pot-limit tourneys. just because it's pot-limit doesn't mean you have to bet the pot ! do you go all-in as a continuation bet in a no-limit hold'em tournament , just because it there's no limit to the amount you can bet ? no, you usually bet an amount somewhere between half and three-quaters of the pot and there's no reason to deviate from this here.

sure there are times when a full - pot bet is required in order to protect a made hand, but for purposes of disguise you should make bets the same size whether you have a strong hand or a complete miss. making this a standard bet a pot-sized bet is just to expensive when you're working with a finite number of chips.


play or pass

one of the most overlooked aspects of plo tournaments is also the simplest. passing! unlike no-limit hold'em tournaments there are no antes in a plo tournament. as a result your play should tighten up. there's less pressure to make a move in and more time to wait for a hand to move in with when you become short-stacked.

people knock themselves out at a rate of knots in plo tournaments and you should'nt lose sight of the tournament as a whole by trying to win every pot at your table. unlike the plo online cash games, which are often six-handed, almost all plo tournaments will be nine or ten - handed. this means that with the absense of an ante, the blinds dont come around that quickly. patience is one of the greatest attribues of good plo tournament players.

when you do push, apart from the obvious a-a or k-k type hands, you're looking for anything double-suited or well connected. hopefully you can pick up the blinds uncontested, but you know that if you do get called you'll likely be up against big-pair type hands, so choose your hands wisely. unlike in hold'em you will likely only be a small underdog with most playable hands.

in the later stages of a tournament, being a good plo player becomes less improtant then simply being a good tournament player. use the skills you have built up playing no-limit hold'em and play the situations as they occur. make sure you go for your fair share is blinds from late position, identify the weak players at the table that you can extract chips from and those who either over value their hands or are afraid to put chips in the pot.


keypoints


1) you should be more inclind to re-raise with hands that can hit a flop hard then with hands that contain aces. when you have dirty aces you should be wary of raising with them pre-flop, unless you are balancing your re-raiseing range with other holdings.

2) don't bet the full pot automaticully when continuation-betting. try to stick to a consistant c-bet size with your good hands and your bluffs of around two-thirds of the pot. don't be afraid to check dangerous flops when you miss as the pre-flop raiser.


example when not to continuation bet


1) you are in middle position with a good double suited hand Railbirds card: AcRailbirds card: KdRailbirds card: 2cRailbirds card: 2d. the action is folded around to you and you raise to 300 at the 50/100 level

2) a player on the button and the big blind both call. the flop comes Railbirds card: TcRailbirds card: 9hRailbirds card: 7h putting out possible stright and a flush draw.

3) the big blind checks to you and you check behind him. this flop is to dangerous to be blindly continuation-betting in plo, especially in a multi-way pot.



terminology


dry-dirty aces- an omaha starting hand which has a-a along with with unconnected cards offering no additional straight or flush potential, such as A-A-10-4 unsuited

if you would like to see the first blog on this subject this is the link

http://www.railbirds.com/blog/196823/pot-limit-omaha-for-beginners.html



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astrogini Oct 4, 2008 4:43 pm
Great Blog, CJ!
Krafty3333 Oct 4, 2008 4:44 pm
This is all great advice. I suggest anyone who doesn't feel comfortable with their omaha game to carefuly read this blog and try to implement these ideas. Starting hand selection is the key in omaha and being able to recognize playable hands is of utter importance.
SandMan0069 Oct 4, 2008 4:57 pm
For anyone who wants to know how to play Omaha I think if part 1 is written as well as part 2 you can learn something useful. And to cj28000 if you wrote this yourself, very nice work. But the main thing to remember in Omaha is you can only play 2 of the 4 cards in you're hand and 3 of the 5 on the board. And in hi/lo it's the same rule but you can use different 2 in hand and different 3 on board to make your low. Sorry man I'm cutting in on your blog.

Good Luck and see you at the tables,
Sandy
cj28000 Oct 4, 2008 4:58 pm
no problems with the cutting in any extra info is accepted
Big Lui Oct 4, 2008 5:19 pm

Great Blog cj,

I like that you stressed the importance of the texture of the board and when to pick up pots and let them go. Omaha is one of them games where you have to look at the board from every angle. Unlike hold'em it's very difficult to use A small ball technique to pick up uncontested pots in omaha because of the nature of the game. Instead your bet should be designed to find out were your opponent is or is going in A hand. I like the bit on betting the pot or Cap betting, to many people try and defend with cap bets on the flop and this is very risky as favourites in omaha can change very quickly especially in multi way pots. By Cap betting to early you could give the advantage to your opponent without even realizing it. Say you flop top 2 pair or a set you going to want to defend your hand, But by cap betting you making a potentially big pot with what could be a weak hand in later streets. Your opponent can take advantage of this by pushing you of your hand when A scare card hits or even trapping you when they hit big to get all your chips. Always remember you opponent has twice as many cards in omaha than in hold'em so this is going to give them A lot more outs and A lot more reason to call. Most of the time the best hand on the flop is NOT going to be the best hand by the river. By keeping pots small when you have hand that can be drawn out on you limit the choices your opponent has to make later on in the hand and make it easier for you to call if you think your hand is good. It's always best to let thing happen naturally in omaha rather than trying to force play.

Nice one cj, Great blog keep'em coming mate I like to be able to come back to these and read them when I start getting stupid on the felts lol.

GL to all on and of the felts.

Big

1idjak Oct 4, 2008 6:14 pm
Ty Cj....Always looking for ways to better my omaha game for sure..... Great game omaha is....
unicat01 Oct 4, 2008 7:33 pm
Thanks again Cj.. great information
jhugs5555 Oct 4, 2008 11:26 pm

I rarely play Omaha tourneys online, but I do play a fairly vigorius live 15/30 limit game with a full kill several times a week. cl's advice here is also very applicable to live play and for anyone who wants to make the transition to Omaha it is a good read with some very good advice. Omaha in my opinion is a much more enjoyable/fast paced game than NLHE (boring) where every turn of the cards brings new possibilities and the "nuts" you are holding on the flop are probably going to get the worst of it by the time the river hits. It is imperative that you know what hands to start with and when to fold and live to play another day.

GREAT WORK cl and I know you put a ton of effort into this blog.

DarkOdin Oct 5, 2008 12:31 am

great info CJ.

perhaps this will help better educate the people that play omaha like its holdem.

A55A55IN Oct 5, 2008 7:46 pm


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