HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT BANNED RAILBIRDS?

I host a few tourneys and some or atleast one player is a banned bird, doesnt bother me much but in the ones that I pay a bounty and if these player are the ones who get the ko I wont pay them. Mass pm for pw would take up to much of my time and hosting these tourneys now already take up alot of that.

I have to respect the prorails, If they got banned they would have been banned for a reason ! No matter how they try to justify it, they must have broken the rules......If there willing to break the rules in the forum will that relate to there poker playing ?

So i'm dilly dallying around an answer really...I would have to say NO they shouldnt be allowed to play in "RAILBIRD TOURNEYS" If its a private tourney advertised @ RB's then thats another kettle of fish ....Isn't it ?

Q

some that make a bad name or are annoying in my tourensy i care about..but i know of 1 that i like having in my tourneys and he knows that.

ARE YOU REFERRING TO OUR PRIVATE TOURNIES?? because it would be easier and more effective to keep it RB only for the private trnys. the RB games are much harder cause there are so many true birds that want and can play.

well I definately do think that the presence of a banned member at a final table is a little discouraging. It is to me anyway. I have wondered how banned birds get the passwords in the past. I recently found out that a banned bird can still visit the site and see all the pw's that are on the blogs. So maybe not publicly posting passwords would cut down on this. However many people are skeptical to spamming yet want the biggest turnout possible for their tournament. That said I don't think the blogging of pw's will cut down any.

As for the bird imparticularly mentioned in this blog. He almost won the powwow in honor of me held this month as well. I was so thrilled the powwow had the turnout that it did and appreciated everybody coming out to play. But I was honestly a little saddened at the thought that he mmight win. I am not sure what he does to constantly get banned but I have played with him many of times and he always seems to be a cool guy(at least to me).

I am not sure if I had anything real to offer here. Just my input. Great topic for a blog.

.....................................apfjr

its quiet simple.....people have to stop tellin people passwords. why would they, it lowers der chances of winning but yet they still do. There is also websites wer people post passwords to different tourneys. i have seen railbirds freeroll passwords there myself. its just one person who could be bringing in 50 non birds. that person prob wont play den. just gets a kick out of lowering peoples chances of winning.

Thats my two cents anyway.

I dont believe they should be allowed in because they are hardly ever respectful and act like clowns agianst those who are trying to get ITM or some Leaderboard points. It just takes away from the fun of the tourney when you have someone reraise or go all-in on Every Single Hand.

The pro rails and many more try to catch these fools. I feel the sites that we play on should take a stand and when we see them in our tourneys that site should come to the table that the thief is at and remove them right then and there. That should be part of the sites obligation to their customers and Rail Birds are one of their customers. I also think when being removed it should be announced at that table why they are being removed so others see that is does not pay to cheat the site or the Rail Birds .. Just my thoughts thanks

one other ting dat could be done is to give birds (who can rightfully play) a tourney ticket like some have on pokerstars. this means no passwords and no people playing who shouldnt be playin!!!

I posted this blog a while back. I don't think it is fair for banned birds to be playing in tourneys that affect the TOC.

http://www.railbirds.com/blog/199790/pw-question.html

I'm not sure of the complete rules of this forum...and not quite sure how one would get banned. It must have been a serious thing they did to get banned so therefore they shouldn't play in or represent themselves as a railbird in any game associated with this forum. Even if they placed tenth it still puts all other respectful railbirds in the same boat. So perhaps the PM'ing of paswords is a good idea.

Jeroboam

Usually I keep alot of my opinions to myself...but I host several private tournies a week, and all of my private tournies are open to all railbirds and to anyone else that may want to participate. I do not think that banned or non railbirds should be allowed to play in Railbird sponsered tournaments, but if the tournament is private held...it is up to the person hosting the tournament...not railbirds (hince the term private tournament). As a matter of fact, most of the private tournament we host (with the exception of clan tournies) are also advertised on Full Tilt Poker itself to attract more players............they are all buy in tournaments, so I dont see why this would ever be an issue to anyone.....they just add to the prize pool is my general philosophy.

The only way to keep em out is to screen everyone who wants to play and preregister them, and sometimes that fails when they've created dummy RB accounts. We need to keep an eye on banned birds userid's and then when they show up in a tournament and say that "I'm so and so, I built a new account to play here you idiots", you can report them for multiaccounting, and have them banned by the poker site. Someone brought to my attention that one of the names on the "Pay-it-forward" tournament list was a banned bird who'd opened a dummy RB account.

I Believe, as in the instance above, that a Banned or Non Railbird should not be allowed to play in a Raibird advertised event (ie Railbirds vs ***** or a Railbirds FR or GTD); however, as many of us are members at more than one site, our friendbase and comraderies also extends beyond the borders and confines of Railbirds.

If I am hosting a private tournament I hope I would be able to invite others, perhaps they may consider joining because of it. Additionally I have been invited to other forums tournaments as well.

Also, pros from Tilt are not generally Railbirds, and I would certainly love to have them attend a tourney of mine (NOT THAT THEY WOULD LIKELY WOULD LOL)

Rhonda

People are known to pass the passwords out, they sometimes show up on other forums as well, as there are some duel members.

I would say, there really is no way that they can stop this from happening, except the last post about giving tickets or something to that nature may help.

Perhaps allowing them to play and if they win, do be it, but if playing for points then I would just dock them, and no trophy. I would have a playoff and then award the trophy or points.

Just my take on the idea

Beez

I have discussed this particular issue a few times since Bud and I had our Pow Wow tourny. The added money going to a banned bird was an issue with some of our donator's. We have figured out a way to stop that from happening next time. We will keep track of who gets our pw. If you are in our tourny, but not on our list, u are not elegible for bounty's or added money. Thats the best solution we could come up with

As for stopping this particular person from playing, i think it is impossible, He has enough friends on here to keep getting the pw.

As for our own private tourny. The PW has always been the same. So there is nothing we can do about it. Anyways, going through so much trouble to keep one person out would just be a hassle. This person does not really bother me, he is always respectful at our tourny's. Also, we want as many players in our tourny as possible with out having to deal with so many pm's requesting the pw.

I agree with you though. I just think it's an issue that can not be solved. Added money, bounty's and trophy's can be kept from banned birds. Keeping them out of tourny's will be rather difficult. Good blog.

This may sound like herasay but it doesn't bother me at all. Maybe that's because I do not play in them too often but when I do it's because I enjoy the company of the RBs that are there, the fact that there are others playing doesn't effect me. I guess if I was big into the rankings or clan things it might be different but I enjoy Railbirds for all of the other great things about the site.

I guess I have felt this way for a long time. The first time that this happened, a way long time ago before most everyone here was even on the site, a member asked a well known pro to join one of our freerolls. The pro said yes and the member gave him the password, thinking this was a great thing - a well know pro playing in a railbird freeroll! Well this caused a stink that you wouldn't believe. The pro was berated and eventually left because of the bad mouthing that he took from members. The RB that gave him the password was banned for doing something that he felt was a great PR thing for this fledging site. It was the first time that I realized that there wold be a lot of drama on this site. It is still my opinion that givg out the password is OK in some cases (like the one above, where a non-railbird that we'd all like to know would spend some time with us playing poker).

Anyway I understand the rules and abide by them even though I believe that there are times when a rule can be broken. Hey but that's just my $.02...b0w

All of you have made some very good point so far. Looks like 50/50 on this so far. The most important part would be to make sure they don't interfere with tourneys like the TOC and Railbirds vs. Whoever.

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Well this is an interesting blog.It seems that PW sharing is common and not much can be done about it.Then you have people who just steal passwords off blogs to gain entry.Then you have people who invite banned birds to play in their tourneys.If it potentially takes money away from you and your friends in the tournaments,KOs cant be collected by them,then why continue to include them?? Some banned birds play to throw it in the face of others,some feel they got banned un-justly and play because they still have friends here. Personally I think it shows a lack of respect to the site.There are plenty of tourneys,SNGs,ring games,etc.....If you host private tourneys and allow banned birds to play,atleast let everyone registering know about it,and let them make their choice.I know of certain instance when a banned bird uses late registration as their tool of choice. Just my opinions,thats all.