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I believe I ran into 2 ppl commiting collusion..should I report?

Sep 28, 2008 7:38 am Report Abuse

well I was playing fake money stud 8 game..or trying to..when I ran into these two guys and they were sitting out and having a conversation..and me being the person who likes reading what other ppl have to say read this..should I report it? it sounds like collusion to me but..I dkn..here's the whole conversation but I thought I found 2 important things that lead to my conclusion of their collusion..

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CME@WSOP2017: sht
CME@WSOP2017: we need to win this DS
20ozCoke: u registering?
CME@WSOP2017: i want it to remain at 1 person reg for as long as possible
CME@WSOP2017: that way less ppl join
20ozCoke: k im going to get something to eat ill be back before it starts for sure
CME@WSOP2017: ok
CME@WSOP2017: i will do same
CME@WSOP2017: we are not losing tonight
CME@WSOP2017: overall
CME@WSOP2017: that means if he somehow lose the 1st DS
20ozCoke: we running the opposite of usain bolt
CME@WSOP2017: we play a 2nd and win
CME@WSOP2017: lol
CME@WSOP2017: i may be able to beat him in the 800m
CME@WSOP2017: prolly not tho
20ozCoke: well gl with that ill be back
Dealer: missnorma joins the table at seat #1
Dealer: missnorma leaves the table
20ozCoke: 8 people 6 min to go it will prob get a good number
20ozCoke: 16 min*
CME@WSOP2017: i am back
CME@WSOP2017: register?
CME@WSOP2017: 13*
20ozCoke: im in
CME@WSOP2017: same
CME@WSOP2017: 55
CME@WSOP2017: is my guess
20ozCoke: ill say 77
20ozCoke: u a lions fan?
CME@WSOP2017: but now i am checking the one that started 30 min ago
Dealer: vir1969 joins the table at seat #4
CME@WSOP2017: then new guess
CME@WSOP2017: no
CME@WSOP2017: i rute for the team playing agaisnt the lions every week
20ozCoke: why is that
CME@WSOP2017: lol
CME@WSOP2017: my new guess is 77 too
CME@WSOP2017: the one 30 min b4 it has 79
Dealer: vir1969 leaves the table
CME@WSOP2017: 2 less is 77
20ozCoke: ha
CME@WSOP2017: because they suck
20ozCoke: millen is gone at least
20ozCoke: he was killin em
CME@WSOP2017: i like the packers
CME@WSOP2017: bears... but have not seen a game of theirs this year
CME@WSOP2017: dont like vikings
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20ozCoke: how much in your acct
CME@WSOP2017: dont want to know
CME@WSOP2017: 580 omg
20ozCoke: sharkscope has u on super tilt br /> CME@WSOP2017: o it has been a BAD day
CME@WSOP2017: 44 percent roi?
20ozCoke: i almost had an awesome day
CME@WSOP2017: how?
20ozCoke: 44 roi u must have won a 180 person tourney
CME@WSOP2017: nah i tore apart the 1 dollar buy in level
CME@WSOP2017: in 45 person tournies
20ozCoke: i hit 9 out of 10 on some football bets and got back 200 profit but if i would have won the 10th it would be like 2000
CME@WSOP2017: i went
CME@WSOP2017: 1 1 3 3 6 6 1 1 7 3 and then 9th was a loss
20ozCoke: wow
20ozCoke: super soft?
CME@WSOP2017: yea
CME@WSOP2017: pay out is superlow tho
20ozCoke: u shouldnt be playign 23 dollar tournies with that
CME@WSOP2017: no
CME@WSOP2017: not anymore
CME@WSOP2017: 1150 is good for now
20ozCoke: when we decide to play 4 man we should do 11 until we are up like 10 games or so
20ozCoke: yea
CME@WSOP2017: i think the 11 50 guys are much easier too
CME@WSOP2017: maybe i just got horsesht inthe 23 s
20ozCoke: i dont notice a difference except i run way worse at the 23
CME@WSOP2017: that boat vs my kh was brutal
CME@WSOP2017: i shouldafolded
20ozCoke: i thought he had ace h or a straight that was super scared of the last heart
CME@WSOP2017: why would striaght go all in if scared?
CME@WSOP2017: i always put the i b4 a in straight
20ozCoke: hope we dont get same table
CME@WSOP2017: if we do
CME@WSOP2017: 1 wins
CME@WSOP2017: no matter what
CME@WSOP2017: or i am pissed
20ozCoke: dont tilt away the money
20ozCoke: i know long term the 4 man hu is profit
20ozCoke: but obv short term anything can happen
CME@WSOP2017: on bad days
CME@WSOP2017: i need to take breaks
20ozCoke: yea i have a stop loss
20ozCoke: meaning when i hit a certain amount im done for day
CME@WSOP2017: which is?
CME@WSOP2017: 200?
20ozCoke: lol im a nit
CME@WSOP2017: dude
20ozCoke: 75 in that area
CME@WSOP2017: this thing may hit 100
20ozCoke: its the weekend
20ozCoke: its not even late west coast time
CME@WSOP2017: last one had 79 ppl
20ozCoke: over
20ozCoke: this one
CME@WSOP2017: i guess california is F**** us
20ozCoke: gotta play these on week days
CME@WSOP2017: yea
CME@WSOP2017: 45 people
CME@WSOP2017: 45-49
20ozCoke: i wont be up much later starting next week i start working 3 days a week
20ozCoke: cant unregister now
CME@WSOP2017: how come u work less than 3 days a week?
20ozCoke: im teaching 3 days a week
20ozCoke: well 2 days and one day in an office
CME@WSOP2017: teaching what?
20ozCoke: it will vary day to day im sub teaching it is easy money its not even teaching really
20ozCoke: but its like 110 a day from 7 30- 2 30
CME@WSOP2017: i am aware of what subs are like lol
20ozCoke: but they needed people and i could use the money
CME@WSOP2017: what does NIU stand for?
20ozCoke: northern illinois univ
CME@WSOP2017: thought so
20ozCoke: we are in the MAC with western mich i believe
CME@WSOP2017: sounds right to me
20ozCoke: way too many people in this
20ozCoke: its full huh?
CME@WSOP2017: yea
CME@WSOP2017: unreal
20ozCoke: ok so if someone gets 35 whats the plan
20ozCoke: refund the 11.50?
CME@WSOP2017: 11 70
20ozCoke: ok
CME@WSOP2017: so u have a baby
CME@WSOP2017: u married right?
20ozCoke: yep no on purpose
20ozCoke: not*
20ozCoke: me and gf found out day after thanksgiving
CME@WSOP2017: ur not married on purpose?
CME@WSOP2017: that she was pregnant
20ozCoke: yea
20ozCoke: super shocked both of us
CME@WSOP2017: so u live together right?
20ozCoke: im the .01 percent for birth control pills
20ozCoke: yes
CME@WSOP2017: and you love her?
Dealer: Fartboy_JR joins the table at seat #4
CME@WSOP2017: just went a little quick?
20ozCoke: yea i do she got preg we were together abiout 5 or 6 months
Dealer: Fartboy_JR leaves the table
20ozCoke: she teaches a couple college courses and is a counselor for freshman
CME@WSOP2017: o nice
20ozCoke: also a little older than me
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CME@WSOP2017: 40?
CME@WSOP2017: or 28
20ozCoke: she is 34 im 25
20ozCoke: 26 on friday
CME@WSOP2017: 34 wow
Moderator93 [Moderator]: Hello everyone. As a reminder, the "call moderator" button is to be used for chat issues only. For all other issues please email support@pokerstars.com and they will gladly assist you.
CME@WSOP2017: lol
CME@WSOP2017: what the
Moderator93 [Moderator]: Sorry for the interruption... Thank you, good luck to all, and enjoy the game.
20ozCoke: doh i didnt hit it
20ozCoke: ty
20ozCoke: someone hit and ran
CME@WSOP2017: wonder what they said
20ozCoke: they just hit the call moderator button
20ozCoke: after clicking the chips
CME@WSOP2017: my friend and i call the moderator on ppl all the time
CME@WSOP2017: we get them going
CME@WSOP2017: til they swear
CME@WSOP2017: then tattle
20ozCoke: what does your setup look like
CME@WSOP2017: blue
20ozCoke: poker setup
CME@WSOP2017: has cards in the bottom right
20ozCoke: i mean do u play on a laptop?
CME@WSOP2017: no
CME@WSOP2017: i hate laptops
20ozCoke: me too i play sometimes on one
20ozCoke: but just got a desk top with dual monitors i love it
CME@WSOP2017: o yea
CME@WSOP2017: nice
CME@WSOP2017: i could play 2 tables like that
CME@WSOP2017: i cant split screen them
CME@WSOP2017: they are too small
CME@WSOP2017: damn
20ozCoke: lol
20ozCoke: i cant run good today
CME@WSOP2017: he had KK tho
20ozCoke: yea but only 300 chips i would have won a big side pit
CME@WSOP2017: i did not notice that
CME@WSOP2017: that sucks
20ozCoke: way to many people to do a turbo
CME@WSOP2017: our money is sitll in good
CME@WSOP2017: just
CME@WSOP2017: not ASgood

some of it is not talking about poker at all..but they did talk about going into a 4 person together


CME@WSOP2017: 1150 is good for now
20ozCoke: when we decide to play 4 man we should do 11 until we are up like 10 games or so

I thought that was clear evidence that they were wanting to go in a 4 man together which gives them a 50/50 chance of winning and whatever winnings they had gotten I am pretty sure they'd split the money...

20ozCoke: ok so if someone gets 35 whats the plan
20ozCoke: refund the 11.50?
CME@WSOP2017: 11 70
20ozCoke: ok

when I read that I thought that was more clear evidence they had strategy if someone gets dealt 35 in the hole so in othe words more collusion between the 2 of them..I searched their names and 20ozcoke did not show up but CME@WSOP2017 was in a 10.70 +1 dollar double shoot out game..I sorted the player list alphebetically(SP?) and I saw 20ozcoke had finished in 86th..I thought there that they were both in a game for a chance for both players to win a satellite cause they sattellite was to the 1 million dollar guarantee tourney with 4 spots to win the sattellites..I'm pretty sure if they were to have final tabled they'd pass chips to each other and get top 4 between them both..

it's clear that they went off topic and talked about some of their personal life stuff..but I thought it was clear that there was strategy for collusion involved there.

should I report it and do you think it will be hard for them to keep their accounts?..oh and I was the one who called the moderator up there cause I thought he'd take a look at the chat and ban them both right then and there..

thanks

sens



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aussiestorm69 Sep 28, 2008 7:44 am
if u think it is collusion sens report it mate. I am not sure either way 2 b honest
Bucky433 Sep 28, 2008 7:52 am
im not really sure. While it isnt really an apprioate conversation to have at a poker table it is hard to tell if it is collusion or not. Maybe report it and send the chat you copied in. Pokerstars can decide if it is or not
jonnie2thumbs Sep 28, 2008 7:55 am
if they are stupid enough to collude in the poker room chat they won't gain much from colluding lol imho

apfjr Sep 28, 2008 7:56 am
I say send it in and let the site decide
SwtLilTabbie Sep 28, 2008 8:11 am
Send it to PS security and have them investigate it.
MetallicaMami Sep 28, 2008 9:24 am
it doesn't look like collusion to me....and there is nothing wrong with planning to play a sng together. i don't see any clear evidence of collusion in what you posted here so all i can suggest is email it to pokerstars and have them take a look.
lou733cop Sep 28, 2008 9:39 am
thats not for us to say whether it is collusion or not...its up to pokerstars and yes i would definetly send it in and have them investigate it and if it is collusion then they willl take the appropriate action
aussies_rule Sep 28, 2008 9:43 am
the fact that 1 of them admitted to going to tables and hasseling people till they swear and then calling a moderator you should send it in. they dont deserve chat themselves
REGULATOR0 Sep 28, 2008 9:52 am
hell yeah let them decide do it i hate freaking cheaters bigtime!!!!
Capt.Jack Sep 28, 2008 5:29 pm

This isn't collusion... just 2 people planning to play a tourny together.

"20ozCoke: hope we dont get same table"

PookieGirl2 Sep 29, 2008 4:16 am
This is clearly a case of team-play, but I'm not 100% sure its against the T&C of teh site

They want to play a series of 4 man tournies, and will split the winnings. (ie they are taking a piece of each other ... winner "refunds" $11.70 to the other)

20ozCoke: hope we dont get same table

They don't want to start on the same table, because they want to try and scoop the cash by playing heads up on the final table.

Report them ASAP
ButtonDog Sep 29, 2008 4:27 am
Copy it and report it. Let the Poker Site deal with it and if it is collusion they will deal with it.
Henreiman Sep 29, 2008 4:40 am

Yeah its collusion.

And when they say 35, it means if one of them wins the tourney (worth 35$) he'll refund the other man's buyin. Definite collusion


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