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pleazzzzzzzzz explain this hand. i'd say pretty bad all around but whatever i'm starting to hate this game.

Read up on double belly busters and how to play them. That was a good play with that double belly buster. The 8 5 off suit had more outs to the straight than your A J suited. You called that all in on the turn with nothing but a draw after they had hit two of their straights.

Here's what Doyle Brunson has to say about such hands.

Double Belly-Buster Straight

Another of my favorites is a hand where you can flop a two-way inside or double belly-buster straight. It’s one of the most deceptive hands there is, and I especially like it in no-limit. It has all the advantages of an open-end straight, but it’s not as easy to read. Because it’s so deceptive, I almost always raise with it when I can win a big pot. For example, say you have a Q-10 and the flop comes A-J-8. As you can see, it’s very deceptive because you can make a straight with a 9 or a king. What’s more, if you catch a king and there’s someone with A-K in the pot with you, you can see all the trouble he’s in. Since double belly-busters are such good gambling hands, you might find the following quick rule of thumb useful:

It’s possible to flop a double bellybuster with any two cards that are part of a straight, such as 7-6, 8-6, 9-6, and 10-6. Also, two cards with five gaps between them such as a Q-6 can also flop a double belly-buster draw. In the supplement at the end of this section you’ll find a complete rundown on all the hands that have double belly-buster potential. When you flop a double belly-buster draw, you should make careful note of which of your possible straights will be the nuts. For example, if you have a J-9 and the fall is K-10-7, both an 8 and a queen will make you a straight. However, only the 8 will give you the nuts. If a queen falls on fourth, someone with an A-J can beat your straight. So you must be careful— especially in no-limit play—and you must know how to read the board perfectly in order to recognize what hand is the ;" class="gal" target="_blank" href="http://www.thedailypunt.com/forum/autolink.php?id=57&script=showthread&forumid=287" rel="nofollow" style="font-weight: bold;">absolute nuts. Practice at home until you don’t make a single mistake. You’ll learn quick enough if you get broke a few times with what you thought was the nuts but turned out to be only the second best hand. Look again at the example above. A player with a J-9 could easily think he had the best straight when the queen fell until someone showed him an A-J for all his money.

An easy way to determine whether your straight is the nuts is by following some simple guidelines. You’ll have the nut straight if:

(1) The high-end of the straight is made up with the highest card in your hand; or

(2) The high-end of the highest possible straight is already on the board. Drawing to a double belly-buster is one of few situations in no-limit where you might be drawing to an inside straight that won’t make the best hand.

As I noted earlier, inside straight draws can be real good plays in no-limit hold’em because for a few chips you have the opportunity to win a very big pot. But you almost never draw to a single belly-buster straight that will not be the best hand if you make it. They’re long-shot plays, so when you do make them, you want to be sure they’re the nuts. For example, let’s say you held Q-J and the fall was 9-8-4. Now you might want to draw at that belly-buster, trying to catch a 10 or make a big pair (even in limit, but mostly in no-limit). You know if you catch that 10, you’ll have a cinch hand. But if you held a 6-5, you’d never draw to it with that flop because there’d be two differen t straights that could beat you if you catch a 7, the 6-7-8-9-10 and the 7-8-9-10-J. If a man makes a straight with you, he’s either got you tied or he’s got you beat. So, you never draw to the dead-end of a single belly-buster.

Before you decide to draw to a belly-buster, you also want to be reasonably certain that your opponent is going to gamble with you if you do make it. I mean, drawing to a belly-buster is a good play, but only if you can win a big pot by making your long shot. So you want your opponent to have the best hand possible on the board. If the flop came 9-8-4, as above, ideally, you want your opponent to have three nines. You don’t want him to have a pair of kings or A-9. You want him to have at least eights and nines, or better. You want him to have a very big hand. Your Q-J would be a very good hand against three nines. It wouldn’t be as good against a pair of nines because it won’t make enough money. Your opponent will release a pair far more readily than he’ll release a set. So if you can get in real cheap and have the potential to win a big pot, bellybuster straights are good gambles. But you also have to be very selective about the belly-busters you do draw to. You don’t want it to be apparent to your opponent that you ould’ve made a straight. In the illustration just used, you might not get the action you want if a 10 falls off on fourth street. The QJ is actually a weak hand when the flop is 9-8-4. Your opponent might put you on a 7-6 and, when the 10 came, he might be very leery about calling a big bet you made. The straight possibility might even scare him off completely. But if a possible straight wasn’t so apparent when the 10 came off, you could probably win a lot of money. Let’s say you had the Q? 9?, and the flop was J-8-2. You might want to pick the 10 off there because that would be a very deceptive belly-buster draw. And inside straights like these are the ones you want to draw for to win a big pot because they aren’t so obvious.

does doyle tell u to call a reraise from the BB with 850s? doubt it

PokerStars Game #20070756385: Tournament #105617854, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (150/300) - 2008/09/01 - 15:48:26 (ET)
Table '105617854 6' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: BLIZGE (3227 in chips)
Seat 2: thefixxxerri (12183 in chips)
Seat 3: fourflushers (4265 in chips)
Seat 4: richsgirl187 (2290 in chips)
Seat 6: Lary18th (11443 in chips)
Seat 7: mrjscote (2778 in chips)
Seat 8: Nosfera-ttu (6930 in chips)
Seat 9: pleazzzzzzzz (1001 in chips)
BLIZGE: posts the ante 25
thefixxxerri: posts the ante 25
fourflushers: posts the ante 25
richsgirl187: posts the ante 25
Lary18th: posts the ante 25
mrjscote: posts the ante 25
Nosfera-ttu: posts the ante 25
pleazzzzzzzz: posts the ante 25
pleazzzzzzzz: posts small blind 150
BLIZGE: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
thefixxxerri: folds
fourflushers: folds
richsgirl187: folds
Lary18th: folds
Nosfera-ttu said, "AK is weak i would never push with that"
mrjscote: folds
Nosfera-ttu: folds
pleazzzzzzzz: raises 676 to 976 and is all-in
BLIZGE: calls 676
*** FLOP ***
pleazzzzzzzz said, "28"
pleazzzzzzzz said, "no way"
*** TURN ***
pleazzzzzzzz said, "no 8"
*** RIVER ***
pleazzzzzzzz said, "no 10"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pleazzzzzzzz: shows (two pair, Nines and Fives)
BLIZGE: shows (two pair, Nines and Deuces)
pleazzzzzzzz collected 2152 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***

pleazzzzzzzz: thats the bs i usualy lose on

no thats the bs u usually win with!!!

I don't know what Doyle would have done in that case, but he does say,

"Get in There and Gamble
If you want to be a winner—a big winner—at no-limit hold’em, you can’t play a solid, safe game. My philosophy of play at no-limit hold’em is a simple one: Try to win big pots and pick up the small ones (win without a contest). It’s a philosophy that necessitates a gambling style of play. My style.
Over the years, this style has fostered numerous comments from countless players about how “lucky” I am. I’ve been hearing that for years. The simple fact is that it’s not true. Everyone gets lucky once in a while, but no one is consistently lucky. It takes more than luck to be a consistently big winner through the years, as I have done. It is something else. You’ll soon discover what that “something else” is.
I appear to be a lucky player because every time a big pot comes up, I usually have the worst hand. There are good reasons for that. I’m a very aggressive player. I reach out and pick up small pots all the time. I’m always betting at those pots, hammering at them. And I don’t want anybody to stop me from doing that. I don’t want anyone to defeat my style of play.
And if I’ve got any kind of a hand, any kind of a draw, I bet. If I get raised, I don’t quit. I go ahead and get all my money in the pot, if it’s a reasonable amount, knowing I probably have the worst hand and am the underdog to win the pot.

hes talkin about after the flop

imho dont think he would call 85os but thx for half his book

and btw i had 2/3 my stack in on the turn button dog.......guess i shoulda folded?

doyle tell u that 2?

hmmmmm...you know there is no such thing as a bad set of cards...any two can win..why get upset for loosing with top cards, what if you had the low cards and won that hand against someone with hight cards.. would you feel bad?....problably not. Just as if you would of won with top cards...either way someone has to win.....just a thought...

I think you are more upset by the attitude he displayed not the hand...

~Flops~

Last night (my time) final table in a 90 seater SNG and I got AA. Raise hefty pre flop (and was chip leader) and one caller met the bet. K 8 and something else flopped. I raised and bet met. After that I was a little concerned. He had flopped K 8 to match the 2 cards he held. Normally he wouldnt have continued but he then had the better hand with 2 pair.

It happens.

lol i love how i got a hole blog dedicated to my donking thanks alot

Why are you so sad when you could see the straight draw on the board?!!!!!!!!!