Was in the FT freeroll with about 8000.. We got some big stacks with 20+ at the table. I had been playing very tight and my table image was a such. So I decided to limp in about 4 hands in a row hoping I could get a big hand limp in and set a trap.
So it comes with the fifth hand.. AA... so I limp again hoping for a raise..
BINGO! 1800 goes all-in to my left... and then a call from one of the 20k+ stacks.. So I commit 1/2 my stack to a reraise, and the idiot puts me all-in.... fantastic right...
WRONG.
AhQs for the short stack
10h10? for the big stack
4 hearts in a row and my day is done..
Then the rocket scientist makes the comment that he loved seeing pocket aces up against his tens. (Might as well be an ass instead of throw a "gg" out there or something"
I guess being a 4.5:1 dog is a good thing... But then again, some people just love playing from behind anyway: figuratively, literally, etc.
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I'm disappointed that I lost, yes, but not upset.. It happens.
I was simply making an observation that the guy with the 10's was actually born stupid enough that he was glad that I had aces.. He was not joking.
After limping there is no way someone is putting you on AA
You're still missing the point that the guy after all was said and done comments "I love to see AA there" and I guarentee their was no hint of sarcasm in his commentary. That is the stupid part there.
I have no fear limping with a big hand in this situation, with a couple of short stacks behind me a couple of big stacks who might wish to bully out there.
I WANT THIS MATCHUP. That is why I limp like this. Whether or not he puts me on aces, when the cards are turned up pre-flop I am absolutely JUMPING FOR JOY! It is the precise thing I wanted to happen here.. Its just rather unfortunate that it ended badly, because I had been playing pretty solid up to that point.
do you want action, ok, thats cool too, just saying make a real bet, if he goes all in then, thats the gamble. dont give them a chance to beat you. You have the image, tight aggressive, use it.
big pairs need protection too!
That is the gamble... And I am an 80% favorite against 10,10 in a non-matching suit situation.. and against that shortstack its 92%... Good gamble if you ask me..
Why should I even think of smooth calling here. I'm really confused by the thought that you wouldn't want all your money in preflop in a situation like this.
This is easy, because you take all skill out of it and now it all boils down to the luck of the draw. You leave yourself no way to get away from the hand and that's not smart poker.
Ok, so whats my reccomended action here? in two scenarios.
1. Where I limped, short stack all in for 1875 or so, call from villian.
2. Where I raise 4-5X BB and short stack still goes all-in and call from villian.
I did not reriase all in... I reraised to 3900. He went all-in.. I guess I should lay down here thinking he has pocket zulus.
As far as what happend, I wouldn't limp pre, but other then that there was nothing you did wrong
Rip are you married? If yes, if I asked your wife if you could understand what she was saying to you after all these years I venture to say she would probably say either not all the time or not at all. So how can you understand that this guy was dead serious when he said "he liked people to have aa against his 1010?"
Call me crazy but I am pretty intuitive and I could not read that into a chat online and if thats your point, I don't see how you can be so sure he was serious. As a matter of fact take some notes on what you read in the chat box at the table and let us know what if anything you can actually "read" and evalute for its veracity. Probably not much besides maybe NH or GG and even then are they being honest?
By limping you opened that door although I doubt you could have pushed the big stack off his hand.
he doesn't want advice... he doesn't need advice, from what i've read here he has played a good game, and his logic of limping and trapping against a large stack is sound...no criticisation needed, agreed in hindsight perhaps it could have been played differently to win it, but you don't know exactly the same thing wouldn't have happened if he'd played it more agressively!!
i'm not having a go at people commenting here i just wish to point out that more and more on railbirds people are missing the point of blogs and just using it to put out some of their knowledge on poker.
He is just venting about being irritated at the guys comment, most of my friends on here if i made a similar blog would console me and help me keep my cool to play on...Lets try and remember that this place is about being a helpful community and not ALL of that is offering playing tactics
sorry lecture over lol but think on what i said
Gl on and off the felts to all u birdies xxx
piesk, rip even re-emphaisized that the guy was born stupid and he was sure of that because he could read the intent and seriousness of the chat. I understand he is venting that was not lost in the translation and I support the venting. I was just jokingly saying most guys don't know how to read their wifes much less a chat box online.
And right or wrong I dont like limping with aces, it tends to get your ace kicked
As a matter of fact I just did exactly that with KQ suited against a limping AA while writing this response
Ok since you want to question the soundness of limping with the Aces... here goes..
1. Two of the biggest stacks in the tournament just rolled into the table.
2. I had been playing solid tight poker and not limping into pots.
3. The two big stacks did not know that.
4. I limped and folded 4 times prior to the AA hand. Others who had been at the table may have found this to be a bit fishy, but it might allow the bigstacks to think I was just an average donk limping in trying to catch cards on a flop.
5. Prior to the big stacks arrival I was chip leader at the table, and the chips were not easy to come by. Most of the players here were solid. Had to do a lot of check raising, and check calling nuts..
6. My min raising the all-in I am attempting to get the big stack to push his chips in. If I am up against AK AQ AJ etc.. I am a HUGE favorite. If I am up a against a pocket pair I am at least a 4:1 favorite. The object with aces vs pocket pairs are to get as much in there as you can preflop WITHOUT pushing the other hand off.
7. Your right, maybe I can't read into people comments, but I think the ! after the comment leads me to believe the indiviual was serious.
8. I will live to play another day, and much more confident in my live game.
Rip how you or anyone decides to play AA is a personal choice. I have played poker for forty years and have my own opinions on what I should do with a set of particular cards wither it is 7 card, Omaha or NLHE.
I play live 3 or 4 times a week in either a 15-30 Omaha dealers choice with a full kill or a game called round of each where we alternate between dealers choice 15-30 Omaha Hi-Lo or NLHE 2/5 everytime the button makes it around the table. I play with what would be considered really good players at any table, two of the players have bracelets from many years back when the WSOP was not what it is today, full of internet players and 15k players in every event. Ones bracelet is in Limit and the other in Omaha so these are not slouches. I can say that if you asked them or the 15 or 20 players who rotate in and out of this game throughout the duration of any given session their opinion you would have 15 or 20 opinions, so I am in no way saying you were wrong.
I do agree with dwolfg and one of the reasons i do not limp with AA is you open yourself up to a multi-way pot and personally i would just as soon have the blinds and move on since it is only one hand, than try and trap 3 or 4 players with my aces.
I have only been playing online for perhaps a year and all I know is it is a very different ballgame than live play and no matter how you play them AA gets cracked an unbelieviable number of times.
As for the reading the chat box, it was a joke nothing more.