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    What Stakes do You Have to Play at to Avoid This?

    Aug 23, 2008 12:11 am Report Abuse

    Did he play this because he had a big chip stack? Did I miss something? This guy had been hittin 3 outers left and right...or maybe its rigged...lmao...As always, you're opinions are appreciated...Peace

    PokerStars Game #19817285752: Tournament #103698219, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/08/22 - 17:20:00 (ET)
    Table '103698219 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 4: Jerez1 (2310 in chips)
    Seat 7: UWINS900 (8790 in chips)
    Seat 9: redsox62axe (2400 in chips)
    Jerez1: posts small blind 75
    UWINS900: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to redsox62axe QcKs
    redsox62axe: raises 300 to 450
    Jerez1: folds
    UWINS900: calls 300
    *** FLOP *** Kc7d5h
    UWINS900: bets 750
    redsox62axe: raises 900 to 1650
    UWINS900: calls 900
    *** TURN *** Kc7d5h 6c
    UWINS900: bets 150
    redsox62axe: raises 150 to 300 and is all-in
    UWINS900: calls 150
    *** RIVER *** Kc7d5h6c 3d
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    UWINS900: shows 7s4d (a straight, Three to Seven)
    redsox62axe: shows QcKs (a pair of Kings)
    UWINS900 collected 4875 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 4875 | Rake 0
    Board Kc7d5h6c3d
    Seat 4: Jerez1 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: UWINS900 (big blind) showed 7s4d and won (4875) with a straight, Three to Seven
    Seat 9: redsox62axe (button) showed QcKs and lost with a pair of Kings

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    cozman Aug 23, 2008 12:23 am
    that was a 4 outer lol but guess he thought you had ace hi or ace 5
    PokerElites Aug 23, 2008 12:24 am
    wow, i guess he stayed in because he was big blind and thought his 7 was the best. wow.
    redsox62axe Aug 23, 2008 12:34 am
    Are you saying that my reraise Post Flop wasn't a hint that I had the K....lol
    whoareyou Aug 23, 2008 12:38 am
    the 7 4 guy had 12 outs on the turn
    rtenley Aug 23, 2008 12:38 am

    He had a lot of chips, and you said he was running good maybe he felt lucky. . . . . you want players like this to call though in the long term you will come out ahead. Just curious what did you think that he had? By not all-inning the flop it seems like a steal maybe that was his read.

    With his lead out on the flop he wasn't folding, 3 handed he must have thought 2nd pair was good. GL

    t4t_wcps Aug 23, 2008 12:38 am

    There are no stakes where you can avoid it. There is always some idiot with more money than brains no matter how high you go.

    t4t

    topcat1954 Aug 23, 2008 12:39 am

    I don't even understand why he called the pre flop raise ! He must have been watching Gus Hansen on television play a hand like this, and figures if it is good enough for Gus, it was good enough for him ! Kinda makes you sick, huh ?

    .....play on .....Tc.....

    redsox62axe Aug 23, 2008 12:42 am
    To clarify I DIDN't say he beat ME on a 3 outer! I said he had been hittting 3 outers...HAD BEEN.....Jeeeesh...Peace
    redsox62axe Aug 23, 2008 12:52 am
    rtenly..When he called me preflop I thought Railbirds card: Ad rag..When he bet post flop I figured..Railbirds card: AdRailbirds card: 7d...after he called my reraise I though Shyt Railbirds card: KdRailbirds card: 7d...I way overestimated him ...lmao
    buick60 Aug 23, 2008 12:53 am
    I think you get this kinda play at EVERY level from the big stack.
    stardust34 Aug 23, 2008 12:54 am
    Some days it really makes you wonder.
    redsox62axe Aug 23, 2008 12:54 am
    Crap I put Diamonds all those on my last comment, should be Hearts..Dohhhh
    buick60 Aug 23, 2008 12:56 am
    Sorry I meant to add I've watched the Sunday Million Final Table replay on PokerStars and it's amazing what the big stack will call with and play to showdown.
    superdog777 Aug 23, 2008 12:56 am
    the big blind was 150 u had 2400 he had 9000 ... the move i would have made at that point would be to push pre flop... then he would have been put to the test... 63% of the time in heads up no one hits the flop so he thought two things... 1 you were quasi short stacked so you may be trying to steal by not fully comitting pre flop and two the odds are in his favor u didint hit... when u reraised him he was already committed and was not in danger of being knocked out and had a pair so he called and got lucky...
    ButtonDog Aug 23, 2008 1:06 am
    I guess he figured that he was so far ahead of everybody in chips that 300 chips was worth a look at the flop heads up. With ten outs at least he must have figured it was worth risking one fourth of his chips to try to take you out.

    As far as how high you have to go to avoid this I don't believe there is a limit because there are people at all levels that play in a way I don't understand.
    TMHawk11 Aug 23, 2008 1:15 am
    red i play alot of diff. buy ins and no matter the price there is always one or two that suck. It seems that sometimes the higher the buy in the less they worry about the money. Play your came you are solid, the luck of the donkeys wont last forever. cough cough,gl bro
    Codimis Aug 23, 2008 1:16 am
    KQo is not a very good hand either, still a tough break, but don't but your life on KQo
    kash350 Aug 23, 2008 1:25 am
    yea i feel like this happens to me all the time also
    Fanch Aug 23, 2008 1:31 am
    Im madder at the sites and their "random" dealing than i am at the players lol
    Sandman2369 Aug 23, 2008 1:43 am
    I play the same stakes and I see it all the time. Last night, the eventual winner had knocked out two players and was the monster stack. One of the very short stacks, 135 in chips pushed, and a guy with 1300 in chips pushed to discourage any callers. Big Stack calls with 7 10, can not remember if it was soooted or not. 5 cards later he wins with a 7 on the turn. Unbelievable.

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