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In response to the "Dark Side of Heroes..." blog

Aug 22, 2008 11:18 pm Report Abuse

I was going to post a blog that had a similar point to this one (Dark Side of Heroes and Role Models, posted by Paganmama), but mine is more specific to poker players. I wasn't sure if I wanted to post this, but I decided I would, to see what others thought about what I am saying.

I watched the video of Scotty making an ass of himself on YouTube, and then I watched videos with Phil Hellmuth and Mike Matusow and Shahram Sheikhan also conducting themselves less than respectably during poker contests. What I started to think about is that these people are, essentially, gamblers, and they are not necessarily trying to be role models, they are trying to make money. Granted they have wide public exposure, and the public sort of expects them to understand that their actions can influence those watching them, but many of these guys have been playing poker longer than it has been the media phenomenon it has become in the last ten years.

Unlike other professional sports, where it should be understood going into it that kids watch them and idolize the athletes, so they should conduct themselves responsibly and respectably, poker players play an adult game that children are not allowed to compete in at an organized level, in most cases. There are no age restrictions on baseball, basketball, football, hockey, etc., but casinos have age restrictions, and so do online poker sites, if I am not mistaken. It takes responsibility and maturity to choose to risk one's own money when gambling, and this is at least one reason why children are not allowed to do it at an organized level.

Poker is a game of lying (bluffing), stealing, and doing everything you can to try to take money from your opponent and put it into your own pocket. I love poker, but sometimes I wonder if it is healthy for my moral compass. I don't let these strategies carry over into other areas of my life, but maybe I would be a better poker player if I did. Who knows? And many poker players do conduct themselves with respect and grace most or all of the time. I do not think it is wrong to idolize poker players, but we have to remember that these are basically normal people who happen to excel at a particular game of chance, for various reasons. It is hard to compare poker players to other professional athletes, when discussing role models, because there are many differences between the two genres of competition. But as Paganmama said, a person who has flaws, and makes mistakes, but is able to take responsibility for their mistakes is, in my opinion, a much better role model than one who is too arrogant to acknowledge their own part in the mistakes that they make. These are my $0.02, and I'll probably lose them at the poker tables.



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XPOKERCHIC Aug 22, 2008 11:27 pm

Great blog. I have never seen Scotty act out that way so it was a bit disappointing to watch. I'm used to the other poker players acting that way, but Scotty baby. WOW! X

jaybeegame57 Aug 22, 2008 11:47 pm
Good blog; I was like to add that I gained a measure of respect for someone I used to not really like, in Erick Lindgren. This guy conducted himself well in the face of all of Scotty's and Flack's BS. I went into that not caring much for Lindgren and liking Scotty, and after those 2 hours it was the total opposite. With that said, I must respectfully disagree with the "normal people" part of this blog. I don't think they are normal people. I think pro poker players fall into 2 categories: 1. Math wizards who can fill their brains with all kinds of info and keep it straight. Examples include Lederer, Sexton, Corkins. 2. Hard-core gamblers. These are the guys such as Hellmuth, Scotty, Matesow and others who must do anything and everything to win. They are not class individuals and will not hesitate to throw anyone or anything under the bus to further their own agenda. That being said, I don't think I have the math wizardry to compete the right way, and do NOT ever want to be a pro poker player due to that.
redsox62axe Aug 22, 2008 11:55 pm
Excellent Blog, I agree with you in every aspect of this. The only thing I don't think you had right was losing your $0.02, I'll BET you don't...Peace
Codimis Aug 23, 2008 12:20 am
Great blog! Wonderfully put!
leavem Aug 23, 2008 12:24 am

I agree with you in theory. I don't personally idolize any poker player. I think there are many great ones and many whom I lke to watch on TV.

I have never liked Scotty from the first time I saw him play, and I very rarely continue to watch any game with Phil Helmuth in it. I think with poker trying to draw new players in and TV rights on the table, these poker players detract more from the game than they add.

Watch Doyle Brunson, in 1 episode of HSP he called Ted Forrest an idiot, the next season he apologized to him for doing so. Yes we all can get caught up in a game but. If I as a nobody would be sanctioned for behaviour such as Scotty and Phil have shown in the past then they should be sanctioned as well. I wouldn't accept this behaviour from my children so I don't wish to watch adults act this way. However, if I was at a table with Humberto Brenes I am pretty sure I would cram that shark down his throat.


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