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Could I Have Avoided This?

Aug 20, 2008 5:39 am Report Abuse

Seat 3: Corrupted Aces ($2)

Seat 4: Str8HighKid ($10.20), is sitting out

Seat 5: Henreiman ($2.75)

Seat 6: browneyedmaan ($13.30)

Seat 7: CamiloAlz ($1.55)

Seat 8: jedi15 ($5.60)

Seat 9: BooBoo712 ($6.20)

Corrupted Aces posts the small blind of $0.05

Henreiman posts the big blind of $0.10

5 seconds left to act

The button is in seat #2

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to Henreiman KhKc

browneyedmaan has 15 seconds left to act

browneyedmaan raises to $0.35

CamiloAlz folds

jedi15 calls $0.35

Emerican Kowboy folds

NUTSinUReye folds

Corrupted Aces adds $0.05

Corrupted Aces folds

Henreiman has 15 seconds left to act

Henreiman has requested TIME

Henreiman raises to $1.50

browneyedmaan calls $1.15

jedi15 calls $1.15

*** FLOP *** 2s5s8d

Henreiman bets $1.25, and is all in

browneyedmaan calls $1.25

jedi15 folds

Henreiman shows KhKc

browneyedmaan shows As7s

*** TURN *** 2s5s8d Ac

*** RIVER *** 2s5s8dAc 2h

Henreiman shows two pair, Kings and Twos

browneyedmaan shows two pair, Aces and Twos

browneyedmaan wins the pot ($6.35) with two pair, Aces and Twos

Henreiman is sitting out

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot $7.05 | Rake $0.70

Board: 2s5s8dAc2h

Seat 1: Emerican Kowboy didn't bet (folded)

Seat 2: NUTSinUReye (button) didn't bet (folded)

Seat 3: Corrupted Aces (small blind) folded before the Flop

Seat 4: Str8HighKid is sitting out

Seat 5: Henreiman (big blind) showed KhKc and lost with two pair, Kings and Twos

Seat 6: browneyedmaan showed As7s and won ($6.35) with two pair, Aces and Twos

Seat 7: CamiloAlz didn't bet (folded)

Seat 8: jedi15 folded on the Flop

Seat 9: BooBoo712 is sitting out

Monster preflop raise, great flop for me...of course the terrible preflop call, and then the A suckout. Maybe if I just smooth-called, I could've saved cash? If I had raised smaller, then bet enough to give him no pot odds, he still probably would've called. What do you guys think?



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Shiznizzled Aug 20, 2008 5:50 am

LOL

That's WAAAAAAAY too funny. I know this guy. He's from my town and I work with him. He's not very good, but he thinks he is. He doesn't know pot-odds from pot plants. The first weekend he started playing poker on-line for money, he deposited $600 on FTP. He lost it in 2 days and re-loaded with $500 on the Sunday. I bet he's lost over $3K since he started playing. Things like this are what convinces him that he is good. Encourage his play. Seek him out. You stand to make a healthy profit.

p.s.... don't misunderstand me... I don't dislike the guy, but he's asked me for advice and I've tried to give it to him. I've encouraged him to join RB's, but he thinks he's Phil Hellmuth's smarter brother, so any drubbings you can give him will do his ego well Good Luck.

tripps747 Aug 20, 2008 5:52 am
he wasnt folding no matter how u played it was a sooted ace with the draw......
topcat1954 Aug 20, 2008 5:54 am

I don't think there is much else you could of done considering the size of the stacks.

.....play on....Tc......

astrogini Aug 20, 2008 5:55 am
Nothing you could do there. Some people LOVE their AX.
T3HNU7Z Aug 20, 2008 5:56 am
I don't think it was avoidable, other than possibly going all-in preflop. He made an unusual move to raise 3.5xBB UTG with A7s. Your reraise should have been a warning for him to fold, but he didn't. Once the flop hit, you were not getting him out of the hand because of your remaining stack. If my math is right, your all-in bet on the flop brought the pot to $5.95, giving him 4.76:1 pot odds which easily covers the roughly 3:1 odds of getting another spade.
PapaPower Aug 20, 2008 6:04 am

You played this hand correctly. Your preflop raise and continuation bet of all in postflop could only signal a monster hand to villain. If he's too stunned to fold with those signals, he never would.

As someone else suggested, seek this guy out and keep playing him. He's your ATM machine.

Henreiman Aug 20, 2008 6:11 am
Bet you guys just followed me to the table lol
Sblounskched Aug 20, 2008 6:54 am
Yeah, I don't think there was any way of getting away from this hand. After your opponent (incorrectly) called your monster preflop raise, the flop gave him exactly what he was trying for, the nut flush draw. If you had a deeper stack there's a chance you could have pushed him off it but judging by the preflop raise he called, I would venture to guess that he would call even if you had him covered. The bright side is that since you didn't have all that much at the table, you didn't lose a monster pot. Keep up the solid play and you'll get your money back from this guy sooner or later.
PookieGirl2 Aug 20, 2008 8:56 am
I think that this type of beat is because of the stack sizes.

What is the max buy-in for the table?

I guess what I'm really saying is that at the smaller stakes... I have found that the size of your raise against weak players can't really be measured against the Big Blind (ie 3x or 10x BB), but rather by the size of your bet compared to their stack (ie 1/10th or 1/5th their stack).

A monster raise to these guys is a raise of more than 1/2 of their stack.... not 5 BBs.

This guy has a sooooted Ace and it's costing him less than 1/12th his stack ... he's calling all the way to the River.

Anyhow, I guess someone smarter then me will be able to tell you the optimal number of BBs to sit down with, for me I try to only sit at tables where I can start with at least 1/2 the biggest stack.

Just something to think about.

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