When do you rebuy...?
Aug 19, 2008 10:42 pm
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Truthfully, Rebuy tourneys scare me... I just don't know how to play them.
I've seen a bunch here at railbirds about how to play them...
very aggressive with overplay etc...
But, when do you rebuy ?
Do you use auto-rebuy ?
Do you rebuy when you are out of chips?
Do you rebuy when you're at a large disadvantage?
how close to the break or cutoff do you rebuy?
Lastly... how many rebuys is too much?
(My problem)
Do you have a cut off number or amount?
Is there an amount that tells you "I'm done for the night?"
Thanks...
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I'm getting braver about rebuys, I always rebuy at the beginning and always add-on. GL DeltaQ I never over rebuy -- thats stupid- hehehe
my rule is to make maximum 2 re-buys and ONE add-on in a tourney...if you aint running good after 2 re-buys,u might start to think if this really is the tourney for you! If your running good in a re.buy tourney, I wouldnt make any add on or so...this might effect your play bcos ur dealing with a twice as big buy in(if addon)...
Likely to be my starting point...
Lets the last FTP ten cent re-buy as an example. (#58485084) If you spend $2.10, so the dime plus 3 re-buys and an add-on, you would loose money if you "Make it in the money." You would have to place in or near the top 100 just to break even. And that is just 3+ the add-on. If you re-buy 5 times and then add-on you would have to make the top 50 out of 3600 just to break even. 7 re-buys and an add-on and you have to make about the top 35 out of 3600 just to break even. I admit, payoffs go up faster after that, but you are still looking at making the top 1% to break even at that point. I admit, this is from the dime re-buy game, but they all tend to come out about the same math in general. Looking at it from this perspective, in general more then 2 re-buys and an add-on you start setting the odds more against you then normal because just making the money dose not get you your money back. Try to never spend more then what last place will pay out in return.
Now a $1 re-buy on FTP number 58557230. It had 421 entrants, 320 re-buys and 134 add-ons. About average. Last place only payed out $2.75. So if you did one re-buy and one add-on, you would loose money if you made the money. If you did the buy-in, plus 2 re-buys and the add-on, now you have to make 27th out of 421 to get a $3.92 payout. You loose, although just a bit, but you still loose money with just $4 that you payed to play. If you buy-in, then do 5 re-buys and the add on you have to make 15th out of 431 just to make seven cents. The pay-out being $7.07 at 15th in this example.
These are actual examples, not just off the top of my head.
Personally I hate re-buys over all, but I have fun with the dime re-buy on FTP. But there I almost never re-buy. My whole point of it is see how far I can go on a dime. Made the top 20 once for over $20 on just ten cents. If you make the money on just ten cents you have made $1.50 to $2. on a dime.
I rebuy before the first hand is dealt.
I will challenge all ins with more than 2 players with almost anything, but my favorite hand doing this with is 7 8, suited or not.
My goal is to reach at least 16K in chips by the end of the rebuy period. To do this I need to get hot with the cards. Position doesn't mean a thing to me during the rebuy period and I will challenge with any marginal cards.
My goal is 1st place, just making the money isn't good enough. 2nd goal is final table. Anything less than that is failure.
For a $1.00 rebuy I will limit myself to $5.00 in rebuys and add-on.
For $3.00 I will move that to $15.00.
I never think of these tournaments entry fee as being what the buy-in is. I multiply it by 5.
If I have just 10K or less at the end of the rebuy I don't bother with the add-on. I just hope to get a lucky break with the cards after the rebuy is over and the real poker begins.
Remember, the goal is to win the tournament. Put yourself into that mind set. Just making the money isn't your goal, even though I have never seen a rebuy where 5 or 6 rebuys and just making the money won't leave you a small profit. Ten rebuys and you must make the final table to profit, but again the goal is 1st place.
If you're going to rebuy, do it as early as possible. The earlier you rebuy, the more the chips you receive are worth. Using the $0.10 tourney as an example, the first 1000 chips you get only cost you $0.01 for every 100 chips. Every time you do a rebuy, you're paying $0.05 for every 100 chips. Since the blinds start out at 15/30 you're getting about 33 big blinds for $0.50 or about 1.5 cents a blind. As the blinds go up, the chips you buy become less valuable. Once the chips you get from a rebuy would still leave you short stacked (less than 10 big blinds), it's a good time to throw in the towel and try again later.
That's just my thoughts on the matter. Hope that helps.
Also, 10 mins before the rebuy period ends, I am super aggressive.
GL