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Opinions on this play

Jul 20, 2008 5:12 pm Report Abuse

ok blinds were 120/240 25 ante. UTG(7k chips) raises 3x fold around to me i call with QhQc(8200)
Flop comes Ad6d7d .. He bets pot. i think about this and lay it down?


i would like some opinions on this play


Well Played?


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Fanch Jul 20, 2008 5:19 pm
I wouldve reraised to about 2.5k preflop but thats just me
PDMike425 Jul 20, 2008 5:21 pm
looks good to me, minus possibly reraising preflop which the other person would've called, A on the board messes up KK QQ and should be folded based on the bet. good fold in my opinion
termination Jul 20, 2008 5:32 pm
Thats why i hate pocket pairs, with the exception of aces... because when an ace hits on the flop, you never know what to do... Did you bet pre flop? Thats what i usually do to try and weed out people that have the potential to catch
FTPGrinder Jul 20, 2008 5:32 pm
i was actually thinking about re-raising preflop but it seemed he had like prolly A10-AK 77-AA in my opinion. but ended up taking 49th in that tourny so its all good
BlueBomber88 Jul 20, 2008 5:40 pm
um, I'm going to guess you were on the button. Personally, I would re-raise, but to about 2,200ish. That way, if he calls and the flop comes like that, yes, I would fold. Heck, w/ THAT flop, I'd check-call because there are so many hands that could kill me.
Supertramp77 Jul 20, 2008 5:57 pm
1) IMO a fold - especially in a situation like you described - is never wrong...!
2)though: i would have reraised immediately on the flop. if he is holding the Ace he would call and i would fold to any next bet from him. its also possible that he holds any other pocket. therefore my reraise: if he dont hold the ace (and has no set with the 6´s or 7´s) he would lay down his hand in 80% of the cases.
3) finally: there will be better opportunities to earn chips for you therefore again congrats to your nice laydown!
ironfrog Jul 20, 2008 6:39 pm

Whats your read on this player? Pre-flop you call with pocket queens on the button. Good points to this is your underrepresenting the value of your hand, you have position to make better decisions post-flop. Bad points is if you put your opponent on this range of AT+,77+ you have him dominated. My standard raise pre-flop would be to raise to 2.5k but seeing as this commits like 33% of your stack I'd shove. You'd be giving him the wrong odds to call if he has AK.

Post-flop he bet pot at an A high board. Pretty strong and fortunately you had position to make a good post-flop play. Not a hard laydown, as your only beating like a third of a that range.

Frog

MrWimpy Jul 21, 2008 3:16 am

I would have folded. 2 questions

1) What can you beat? Maybe JJ, 10 10, KQ with a diamond. And even then he could be holding a diamond which means he can still draw out even if you do make the right initial call.

2) If you missed the flop, would you really lead out on that board??

Often people over complicate things. He had an ace, raised pre flop and then bet the pot when he hit. If he was bluffing it was a very risky time to try

tripps747 Jul 21, 2008 3:21 am
perfectly played the ace was scary and all diamonds yep smart move save those chips for later......
JasperJr Jul 21, 2008 3:56 am
I think you played it pretty well. I think you had to lay it down with that flop and the follow-on bet unless you saw some pattern to indicate that he was bluffing.
KevGuy Jul 21, 2008 4:08 am
i like to get fancy with big pairs preflop as well. I would have prolly made the same play you did.
jhugs5555 Jul 21, 2008 4:31 am

Since you did not re-raise pre-flop you have no idea how strong his hand is. A re-raise could have given you a ton of info to work with. Since you have 8200 you have some room to poke around for information. I may not have raised 2500, maybe closer to 2k, but 2k or 2.5k are not much different and you would have known where he was depending on what you knew about him from earlier hands. He pushes or re-raises throw the hand away like it was on fire and you still have a nice stack.

Since you did not re-raise though you did exactly right. KK,QQ are big dogs the minute the board sees an ace. Just my opinion.

PookieGirl2 Jul 21, 2008 4:45 am
UTG already showed strength with pre-flop raise, so you have a good (but wide) range on his hands. IMHO it's better not to re-raise to maintain deceptive strength of your hand.

You know where you are (roughly) in this hand, post flop. Don't think he is raising pre-flop with low/mid pocket-pair, so I would guess you are way behind.

IMO you played this pretty well actually.
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