bad beat

Nothing you can do when you got four of a kind 5's. gotta call anything

Stupid play on you part, shouldn't have called preflop, shouldn't have called on the flop, and on the turn, yes you did have a full house, but if he had just one ten he would have had a bigger full house. But most of all, people like you who call with rags preflop are the ones who are usually the causes of bad beats.

callin a min raise from the BB preflop with 45h isn't a bad call. Thats you hand you want to see a cheap flop with.

Why would you pay an extra blind to see a flop with 45, you are in horrible position with a horrible hand, but its ok, its people like you fatchuck, and you bigmhj who make it profitable to play poker.

I think they call that a cooler. No way you fold that. The times you have quads and lose will count on one hand in the next 5 years

That guy reeeled definatly. Congrats to him but I think most any player would go broke on that cooler

Slavo, your comment is ignorant. He is getting odds of 2 to 1 to call with suited connectors. I dont care what hand he got, he right to call

It wasn't a bad beat, because not once were you ahead in the hand.

Calling on the turn was a bad play in my opinion, cuz if he's betting you got to know he's got the bigger fullhouse.

Preflop I'm not gonna complain about the call, but after that flop and his bet you should have auto ejected this hand, cuz even if he was betting the 5, what would your 4 outkick?

First of all, MrWimpy, how is he getting 2 to 1 odds to call? There's at least 3 BB's in the pot already, and he can call with one BB that's 3 to 1 learn to count, and anyways you think that those are the right odds to call? He would have to get at least two pair on the flop for this to be a profitable hand, and the odds that he gets even a flush or a straight draw, which isn't that good is 6 to 1, so on a 3 to 1 preflop he would lose money on average. And how is my comment ignorant? It is a mistake to put in an extra big blind preflop with 45 even if it is suited, especially from early position.

Slavocash, sorry to say your wrong here, or better to say, you may play that way, but not everyone does.

First off there if the blinds are say 250/500 there will be 1250 in the pot when it gets to you provided everyone folded to you. That gives you 2.5 to 1 to make the call here. Not bad in order to see the flop if you have any post flop playing skills what so ever.

Now the problem with this situation is the lack of info. What position was the raiser in, was anyone else in the hand? What are the chip stacks? These are questions that need answered before we can truly disect this hand.

Just a few badbeats from Vegas my friend....my aces were cracked by 25 suited in a 2-5 cash game , same cash game KK cracked by 7-9 off both plays from same player to multiple preflop raises etc I was BB both times ..

Slavo, there is no need to be personal and or rude.

Point 1: I said 2 to 1 - hes getting 2 1/2 to 1....big deal. eg blinds 100/200. Btn raised to $400...how much is in the pot.....$400 + SB $100 = $500. Needs to call another $200. $200/$500 = 21/2 to 1.

You said hes getting 3 to 1 in effect making my argument MORE plausable NOT less. (Please "learn to count"

Point 2: Are you only going to defend your blind with AK, AA, JJ etc when someone min raises you????? Good luck not having your blinds smashed

Point 3: Similar to point 2, when you do play a hand, do you think you will ever get paid off?????

Point 4: suited connectorts can play well post flop.

Point 5: You hand is disguised

Point 6: its easy to throw away with minimum damage

You idiot, what about the big blind already in the pot from him? 3.5 to 1 odds.

Why would you defend you blind? So that you can play the hand out of position post flop with a horrible hand? You are losing money on average when you defend your blinds with mediocre to trash hands.

The easiest is to throw it away preflop with the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM damage. Suited connectors might make a 4 flush or a 4 straight like 15-20 percent of the time but even then they are still 65-35 to NOT make the straight or flush draw.

Slavo

45 Vs AK ......what are the odds Slavo??? You realise its.....AK 60%, 45 40%??? And your folding with odds of 21/2 to 1...is that right?

any chance you can stop calling me an idiot by the way?

It would be that simple mr.wimpy if it was all in pre-flop, but bigmhj obviously lacks in the skill postflop department.

I agree, you can't call this a 'bad beat' because your opponent had better cards from the beginning. 'Bad beat' only applies when the hand with the lower percentage of winning early on ends up the loser.

Now, as to sticking around with 45s, I don't find your call of the pre-flop raise as objectionable as some here do, but I probably would have let it go when my opponent led out after the flop. He only needs one Ten to be ahead, and he could even have had something like A5 (if he was playing loose-aggressive) and had you outkicked*. Sure, once you got to having quad Fives, there was no way you could fold, but I probably wouldn't have gotten that far into the hand.

*-Of course, if he'd had A5, those two Tens on the board might have made him worry about your potential for holding something like T9. But if I held A5 with that board, I'd expect an opponent to my right holding a Ten to lead out with it most of the time unless he is trying to trap me.

To sum up

1> calling pre flop is good play. Well done. You were getting 3 to 1 with suited connectors which is just dandy

2> Calling on the flop is fine. 90% of the time you check , hes going to bet with anything. I think folding here is too soft. If you show him you will check fold everytime, your going to be run over.

3>Calling the Turn. This is the hardest part of the hand. Is he firing a second bullet? Unlikely, but still very possible in my opinion. If he thought you missed the flop, the 5 isnt changing his mind. He also could easily have a pair of any sort. I dont think this is any easy fold at all, contrary to Slav and others. This is where you need to know the player. Is he a bluffer? If not, you need to fold. If he is.....hard!

4> all over. cant get away