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proof that online poker is rigged....

Jul 13, 2008 3:02 am Report Abuse

well not really.. but i think its funny that i get my money in with the best of it and lose... then when i go with the worst i win????? weird.. maybe thats why so many donkeys play online cuz they are rewarded for bad plays.

LOOK AT THE HANDS --- starting with me getting crippled.

PokerStars Game #18775950536: Tournament #95484337, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/07/12 - 20:46:53 (ET)
Table '95484337 2' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: GA 185 (4980 in chips)
Seat 2: Showdown76 (7680 in chips)
Seat 3: BBKDuchess (900 in chips)
Seat 4: dicemanIBS (1630 in chips)
Seat 5: chubbs799 (3445 in chips)
Seat 6: jaredb16 (7110 in chips)
Seat 7: Duck0705 (10980 in chips)
Seat 8: ametfan (2140 in chips)
Seat 9: HoneyStackZ (1635 in chips)
ametfan: posts small blind 100
HoneyStackZ: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HoneyStackZ KhAh
Duck0705 said, "god call"
GA 185: folds
Showdown76: raises 600 to 800
BBKDuchess: folds
dicemanIBS: raises 830 to 1630 and is all-in
chubbs799: folds
jaredb16: folds
Duck0705: folds
ametfan: folds
HoneyStackZ: raises 5 to 1635 and is all-in
Showdown76: calls 835
*** FLOP *** 3dJsTh
*** TURN *** 3dJsTh 8h
*** RIVER *** 3dJsTh8h 3c
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HoneyStackZ: shows KhAh (a pair of Threes)
Showdown76: shows QhAd (a pair of Threes - lower kicker)
HoneyStackZ collected 10 from side pot
dicemanIBS: shows KcJd (two pair, Jacks and Threes)
dicemanIBS collected 4990 from main pot

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PokerStars Game #18775964933: Tournament #95484337, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/07/12 - 20:47:38 (ET)
Table '95484337 2' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: GA 185 (4980 in chips)
Seat 2: Showdown76 (6045 in chips)
Seat 3: BBKDuchess (900 in chips)
Seat 4: dicemanIBS (4990 in chips)
Seat 5: chubbs799 (3445 in chips)
Seat 6: jaredb16 (7110 in chips)
Seat 7: Duck0705 (10980 in chips)
Seat 8: ametfan (2040 in chips)
Seat 9: HoneyStackZ (10 in chips)
HoneyStackZ: posts small blind 10 and is all-in
GA 185: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HoneyStackZ 4c5s
Showdown76: folds
BBKDuchess: raises 700 to 900 and is all-in
dicemanIBS: folds
chubbs799: folds
jaredb16: folds
Duck0705: folds
ametfan: folds
GA 185: folds
Uncalled bet (700) returned to BBKDuchess
HoneyStackZ said, "horrible play with KJ!!! wow"
*** FLOP *** KhTd5c
*** TURN *** KhTd5c 5h
*** RIVER *** KhTd5c5h 2d
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BBKDuchess: shows As7s (a pair of Fives)
BBKDuchess collected 380 from side pot
HoneyStackZ: shows 4c5s (three of a kind, Fives)
HoneyStackZ collected 30 from main pot

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PokerStars Game #18775977947: Tournament #95484337, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/07/12 - 20:48:18 (ET)
Table '95484337 2' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: GA 185 (4780 in chips)
Seat 2: Showdown76 (6045 in chips)
Seat 3: BBKDuchess (1080 in chips)
Seat 4: dicemanIBS (4990 in chips)
Seat 5: chubbs799 (3445 in chips)
Seat 6: jaredb16 (7110 in chips)
Seat 7: Duck0705 (10980 in chips)
Seat 8: ametfan (2040 in chips)
Seat 9: HoneyStackZ (30 in chips)
GA 185: posts small blind 100
Showdown76: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HoneyStackZ TsKd
BBKDuchess: folds
dicemanIBS: folds
chubbs799: raises 400 to 600
Duck0705 said, "hang in there honey"
HoneyStackZ said, "tryin to"
HoneyStackZ said, "but people gettin lucky"
HoneyStackZ said, "on me"
jaredb16: calls 600
Duck0705: folds
ametfan: folds
HoneyStackZ: calls 30 and is all-in
GA 185: folds
Showdown76: folds
*** FLOP *** 9dQd2d
chubbs799: checks
jaredb16: checks
*** TURN *** 9dQd2d 5c
chubbs799: bets 400
jaredb16: folds
Uncalled bet (400) returned to chubbs799
*** RIVER *** 9dQd2d5c 7d
*** SHOW DOWN ***
chubbs799: shows JdAh (a flush, Queen high)
HoneyStackZ said, "lol"
chubbs799 collected 1380 from side pot
HoneyStackZ: shows TsKd (a flush, King high)
HoneyStackZ said, "yeah!!"
HoneyStackZ collected 150 from main pot

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PokerStars Game #18776073303: Tournament #95484337, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2008/07/12 - 20:53:12 (ET)
Table '95484337 2' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: GA 185 (4655 in chips)
Seat 2: Showdown76 (6245 in chips)
Seat 3: BBKDuchess (855 in chips)
Seat 4: dicemanIBS (4965 in chips)
Seat 5: chubbs799 (4200 in chips)
Seat 6: jaredb16 (6485 in chips)
Seat 7: Duck0705 (10955 in chips)
Seat 8: ametfan (2015 in chips)
Seat 9: HoneyStackZ (125 in chips)
GA 185: posts the ante 25
Showdown76: posts the ante 25
BBKDuchess: posts the ante 25
dicemanIBS: posts the ante 25
chubbs799: posts the ante 25
jaredb16: posts the ante 25
Duck0705: posts the ante 25
ametfan: posts the ante 25
HoneyStackZ: posts the ante 25
BBKDuchess: posts small blind 100
dicemanIBS: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HoneyStackZ Ks3c
chubbs799: folds
jaredb16: folds
Duck0705: folds
ametfan: folds
HoneyStackZ: calls 100 and is all-in
GA 185: calls 200
Showdown76: folds
BBKDuchess: calls 100
dicemanIBS: checks
*** FLOP *** TdTc6s
BBKDuchess: checks
dicemanIBS: checks
GA 185: checks
*** TURN *** TdTc6s 6d
BBKDuchess: checks
dicemanIBS: checks
GA 185: checks
*** RIVER *** TdTc6s6d Ts
BBKDuchess: checks
dicemanIBS: checks
GA 185: bets 200
BBKDuchess: calls 200
dicemanIBS: calls 200

*** SHOW DOWN ***
GA 185: shows As3s (a full house, Tens full of Sixes)
BBKDuchess: shows 9cJd (a full house, Tens full of Sixes)
dicemanIBS: shows 7hAd (a full house, Tens full of Sixes)
BBKDuchess collected 300 from side pot
dicemanIBS collected 300 from side pot
GA 185 collected 300 from side pot
HoneyStackZ: shows Ks3c (a full house, Tens full of Sixes)
BBKDuchess collected 157 from main pot
dicemanIBS collected 156 from main pot
HoneyStackZ collected 156 from main pot
GA 185 collected 156 from main pot
HoneyStackZ said, "lo"

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PokerStars Game #18776093104: Tournament #95484337, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2008/07/12 - 20:54:13 (ET)
Table '95484337 2' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: GA 185 (4686 in chips)
Seat 2: Showdown76 (6220 in chips)
Seat 3: BBKDuchess (887 in chips)
Seat 4: dicemanIBS (4996 in chips)
Seat 5: chubbs799 (4175 in chips)
Seat 6: jaredb16 (6460 in chips)
Seat 7: Duck0705 (10930 in chips)
Seat 8: ametfan (1990 in chips)
Seat 9: HoneyStackZ (156 in chips)
GA 185: posts the ante 25
Showdown76: posts the ante 25
BBKDuchess: posts the ante 25
dicemanIBS: posts the ante 25
chubbs799: posts the ante 25
jaredb16: posts the ante 25
Duck0705: posts the ante 25
ametfan: posts the ante 25
HoneyStackZ: posts the ante 25
dicemanIBS: posts small blind 100
chubbs799: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HoneyStackZ 9h3h
jaredb16: folds
Duck0705: folds
ametfan: folds
HoneyStackZ: calls 131 and is all-in
GA 185: folds
Showdown76: folds
BBKDuchess: raises 662 to 862 and is all-in
dicemanIBS: folds
chubbs799: folds
Uncalled bet (662) returned to BBKDuchess
*** FLOP *** QdJhKc
*** TURN *** QdJhKc Th
*** RIVER *** QdJhKcTh Qh
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BBKDuchess: shows AsKh (a straight, Ten to Ace)
BBKDuchess collected 138 from side pot
HoneyStackZ: shows 9h3h (a flush, Queen high)
HoneyStackZ collected 718 from main pot

============================================

PokerStars Game #18776108373: Tournament #95484337, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2008/07/12 - 20:55:01 (ET)
Table '95484337 2' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: GA 185 (4661 in chips)
Seat 2: Showdown76 (6195 in chips)
Seat 3: BBKDuchess (800 in chips)
Seat 4: dicemanIBS (4871 in chips)
Seat 5: chubbs799 (3950 in chips)
Seat 6: jaredb16 (6435 in chips)
Seat 7: Duck0705 (10905 in chips)
Seat 8: ametfan (1965 in chips)
Seat 9: HoneyStackZ (718 in chips)
GA 185: posts the ante 25
Showdown76: posts the ante 25
BBKDuchess: posts the ante 25
dicemanIBS: posts the ante 25
chubbs799: posts the ante 25
jaredb16: posts the ante 25
Duck0705: posts the ante 25
ametfan: posts the ante 25
HoneyStackZ: posts the ante 25
chubbs799: posts small blind 100
jaredb16: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HoneyStackZ KcAs
Duck0705: folds
HoneyStackZ said, "wow!!!"
ametfan: calls 200
HoneyStackZ: raises 493 to 693 and is all-in
GA 185: folds
Showdown76: folds
BBKDuchess: folds
dicemanIBS: folds
chubbs799: folds
jaredb16: calls 493
ametfan: calls 493
*** FLOP *** 7d7h5s
jaredb16: checks
ametfan: checks
*** TURN *** 7d7h5s Tc
jaredb16: checks
ametfan: checks
*** RIVER *** 7d7h5sTc 9s
jaredb16: bets 200
ametfan: folds
Uncalled bet (200) returned to jaredb16
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jaredb16: shows 8hJs (a straight, Seven to Jack)
HoneyStackZ: shows KcAs (a pair of Sevens)
jaredb16 collected 2404 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2404 | Rake 0
Board 7d7h5sTc9s
Seat 1: GA 185 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Showdown76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: BBKDuchess folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: dicemanIBS (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: chubbs799 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: jaredb16 (big blind) showed 8hJs and won (2404) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 7: Duck0705 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ametfan folded on the River
Seat 9: HoneyStackZ showed KcAs and lost with a pair of Sevens



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DonkSlayer82 Jul 13, 2008 3:14 am
blah blah blah get over it!!!!!!!!!!!
Hughes4 Jul 13, 2008 3:17 am
Obviously
t4t_wcps Jul 13, 2008 3:27 am
All this blog proves is that you play some bad hands and that you dont really know what a bad beat is.
Codimis Jul 13, 2008 3:36 am
it is kinda funny how crappy hands win so often. i agree
jwconrad Jul 13, 2008 3:58 am

DonkSlayer82 - if you don't have something constructive to add, why add anything at all?

t4t wcps - you're missing the point. the first hand was AKs. the next few hands were all-ins due to the almost zero chip stack. but those junk hands win. then another quality hand loses to a junk hand.

I truely believe the game is NOT random. I've been playing poker for 35 years and have never seen the wacky things that happen playing online.

I think the online sites have things programmed to cause lots of action because that's what the players want and more action means more money for the site.

t4t_wcps Jul 13, 2008 4:24 am
the first hand... how big of a favorite do you think you were?
the-cure Jul 14, 2008 4:11 am

thank you Jwconrad.. he missed the point of this blog.

but online poker is still different that live in regards to the deck.

online= no burn "kill cards" also a random number generator decides next card meaning all draws possible.. as in a deck of cards.... they may not be.. due to shuffle order... although they are still considered "0uts"

nocturnalavian Jul 14, 2008 9:30 am

I ran all the hands through an odds calculator and here are the odds of you winning each hand: 73%, 36%, 37%, 34%, 18%, 35%, and 65%. I just don't see how you can claim that online poker is rigged based on these hands. At best you are about 3 to 1 and at worst you are a 2 to 1 dog. The 18% is for the four way hand.

watchdog26 Jul 14, 2008 9:32 am
lol, that's all I can say, lol or lmao both fit
Dotde Jul 14, 2008 9:41 am

You seriously think these companies would risk million dollar lawsuits by rigging their software to help a few people win some hands? Please...

People get lucky streaks live just as often as they get them online.

I also thought this was funny:

Duck0705 said, "hang in there honey"
HoneyStackZ said, "tryin to"
HoneyStackZ said, "but people gettin lucky"
HoneyStackZ said, "on me"

ThePhenom Jul 14, 2008 9:45 am
jokerstarsss

first one however seemed pretty normal
the-cure Jul 15, 2008 6:07 am

i said that cuz my AJ lost to A9.. he hit runner straight..

my 88 lost to K7s....

then my AK lost to KJ

Supertramp77 Jul 15, 2008 6:18 am
lmao twice..very nice handhistory, tx for posting it

best of luck to you..and stay away from AK...!
MrWimpy Jul 15, 2008 6:28 am
so more bad beats = more action on the site....please explain the logic?
payotecapone Jul 15, 2008 6:43 am

christian leattner should be a shoe in for the hall of fame.


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