When I originally joined this site, I asked why is it that straights beat 3-of-a-kind?
In my own experience, I see far many straights than 3-of-a-kind. Hence my silly question: If 3-of-a-kind are harder to get than straights, why do straights beat them?
I guessed I wished for some statisticians to prove whatever result. But, so far, to no avail.
So, I repeat myself: My experience has shown me that there are far many occasions odfstraights than of 3-of-a-kind.
Am I the only only one who think that 3-of-a-kind should be straights? And, if not, can someone explain to me why not? I am not convinced, sorry...
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Because a straight is a 5 card hand, and 3 of a kind isn't, it has two dead cards!
......play on ..Tc.....
Sorry, this does not prove anything from a statistical point of view... If you play regularly, you'll have to admit that you've seen far many straights than 3-of-of-a-kind. I know I have...
pokers a 5 card game not a 3 card game
If it is numbers you need to convince you, how about these : For you to hit a set with a pocket pair, you are at 11%, to hit 3 cards in sequence to match with the 2 you hold, is 3.5%, so that is about 3 times as hard, by the numbers !
......play on ...tc........
So what? I challenge anyone telling me that, whilst playing, he saw more 3-of-a-kind than straights.
A straight, as we all know, is indeed a 5-card hand but with MANY possibities: a card at the bottom, a card at the top, or even a card in-between...
I'm just asking you one thing: From your own experience in playing, don't you also get the feeling that you've seen far many straights than 3-of-a-kind?
http://www.math.hawaii.edu/~ramsey/Probability/PokerHands.html
Of course I want to be convinced - either way!
I only wished I could see the actual computed stats
Flopping a set or better (with a pocket pair) - 7.5/1 (11.8%)
Trips (using one of your pocket cards) from two non-pair cards - 73/1 or a little above 1%.
A straight from an open-ended straight draw on the next card 17%.
theres some odds for you ,and even getting a straight on a gutshot draw is 8%.
But the odds of flopping a straight are a little above 1% which is wayy less then floping a set with 2 pocket pairs (11%) and even getting trips with only 1 of your pocket pair cards is about 1% too. So it may be easier to draw out if you have a straight draw then to get trips but its a lot easier to get trips on the flop then the river
poker is made up of 5 cards you have to have 5 cards
example:
your hand is: kc ks
bored: Kh 2c 3s 4c Ac
you have 3 kings with Ac and 4c to make your 5 cards
were as the person with the st8 has a better 5 card
hope this helps
Again, I ask the same question: Don't tell me that, frm your experience, you've seen more 3-of-a-kind than straights... Well, have you?
I have a weird analogy for part of the problem it may be confusing but its what I came up with. But first of all lets look at this!
If you are dealt AK. And you are looking at trips you have three ways of getting this. Either 2 A's, 2 K's or 3 of any other card. Now if you are looking for a straight you must hit three cards not matter what. Plus you can hit trips with any cards on the board! So your odds have increased slightly because the fact that you only need to hit two cards instead of three, along with the fact that you must hit 1 of four cards 3 separate times to complete the straight. (That is why many pros put value in hands like j10, 89, 65. They increasing the chances of hitting a straight because they dont need three specific cards they can use a number of different cards to complete the straight. However they do still need to hit 1 in 4 three times. instead of 1 in 3 twice.
Now the board tripping up has the same chance as hitting the straight for the same reason. You would have to hit three cards in order to make your hand.
Maybe this will be easier. I am just setting up the flop nothing more.
9 10 Suited you only have to hit two cards to catch trips a 2 percent chance of hitting trips on the flop
The straight is 3 cards so your left about a 1 percent chance.
There is a formula you can use. I have to re think about it but I will get it to you when I do. there are also a lot more ways to complete trips than to complete a straight along with the fact you only need three cards for trips but need 5 for a straight. So your odds of hitting diminish there.
Now as far as you seeing more.
Lets look at it this way: I live in Louisiana so you would expect that I would see more Louisiana License plates. And for most people in LA that would be correct. Therefore the chances of picking a car at random that has LA plates is lets say 8 out of 10. However I live 5 minutes from the Texas border therefore my chances of seeing a LA plate drop to 5 out of 10. Does that mean that every person in LA should change there stats? What about someone living on the border of three states and in a major city connected to a major highway. They are looking at maybe 2 out of 10 but overall a person in LA will see a LA plate 8 out of every 10 times.
This is just to show that one person may see many more things than another. I for one see a lot more flushes than straights. So you might see more of one thing but that does not mean it is easier to obtain in the long run.