Can anyone offer advice here?
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Tilt Poker Game #7016806408: Table Palos (deep) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:35:28 ET - 2008/06/29
Seat 1: Cyrgrande ($20.55)
Seat 2: wanghai ($18.75)
Seat 3: DimitriKJ ($57.45)
Seat 4: Arnie1981 ($50)
Seat 5: lmuPE ($53.50)
Seat 6: watchdog26 ($40)
Seat 7: toxia ($53.45)
Seat 8: le roc blanc ($90.75)
Seat 9: LaPlatian ($65)
le roc blanc posts the small blind of $0.25
LaPlatian posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to watchdog26
Cyrgrande raises to $1
wanghai folds
DimitriKJ folds
Arnie1981 folds
lmuPE calls $1
watchdog26 raises to $4.75
toxia calls $4.75
le roc blanc folds
LaPlatian folds
Cyrgrande calls $3.75
lmuPE calls $3.75
*** FLOP ***
Cyrgrande bets $7
lmuPE has 15 seconds left to act
lmuPE raises to $14
watchdog26 raises to $35.25, and is all in
toxia folds
Cyrgrande calls $8.80, and is all in
lmuPE has 15 seconds left to act
lmuPE calls $21.25
watchdog26 shows
Cyrgrande shows
lmuPE shows
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
watchdog26 shows a pair of Kings
lmuPE shows a flush, Ace high
lmuPE wins the side pot ($38.90) with a flush, Ace high
Cyrgrande shows a pair of Queens
lmuPE wins the main pot ($64.15) with a flush, Ace high
Cyrgrande is sitting out
watchdog26 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $106.05 Main pot $67.15. Side pot $38.90. | Rake $3
Board:
Seat 1: Cyrgrande showed
and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 2: wanghai didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: DimitriKJ didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Arnie1981 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: lmuPE showed
and won ($103.05) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: watchdog26 showed
and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 7: toxia (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: le roc blanc (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: LaPlatian (big blind) folded before the Flop
© Copyright 2008
19 comments
Don't know how you could defend your hand any better than that... I can't even begin to imagine what Q2 is thinking here...
My advice, rebuy into the table and milk that cow for all she's worth.... AND look for ImuPE every time you log in.
Just noticed it's a cash game not a tourney lol ,
even better , add them to your friends list lmaoo , gl
Just Fool Tilt at work.
After the flop you: 78.85%, KQ: 3.54%, Q2: 15.28%
After the turn you: 71.43%, KQ: 2.38%, Q2:26.19%
You played it right and I don't think anyone could have played it better.
David
Ok, first off, you played this like most people would have, thinking you were protecting your overpair, which is a good thought, but there is a hole in it ! You still put all your money in there with only 1 pair, and we all know that most often it takes 2 pair or better to win a pot in hold 'em.
You're raising is where the problem begins, with so many people in the pot, by the time it got back around to ImuPE, he was getting 3 1/2 to 1 odds to call. Even tho he was way behind, he had outs, and if money isn't an issue with someone, that isn't so hard a call to make.
I am sure you were hoping to isolate it to 1 opponent, but the pot odds were just to big to be ignored, Against 2 random hands he was over 60% favorite, and at worst he was 15% if he thought either of you had an overpair, or another Queen with a bigger kicker. You were 80% favorite when you got your money in, so it wasn't a big mistake for you, he made the mistake and got lucky, but that is the nature of the beast.
I would take the advice of ksuhart, look for that joker the next time you play, there is a lot of money to be made from him, if this is his typical play. Just remember tho, in a multiway pot, the last guy to act is going to call a lot of the time with weak holdings, simply because he is getting such good odds to call, espically if the opponents are all in, and can't cost him more for the rest of the hand.
His raise to $14 basically pot committed him to your reraise, because you didn't have enough fold equity to run him off ! I don't think you made a bad play, but in the future think about the odds the last guy will be getting, and how much he has in already, and consider if you have enough money to run him out of the pot, espically when you are only holding a pair, if a deuce had come on the turn or river, the same result would have happened. Getting it all in with the best, isn't all it is cracked up to be, espically with one pair, and 2 cards to come !
You are doing fine, and will prosper, keep up the good play ! I think I will go run a search on him and see if I can get some of that cash...lol...Later !
.......play on .....Tc........
Here's the advice:
Re-load, get those chips back...should be easy given the poor play. However, if ImuPE wins another like that, assume he can see the deck before it is dealt. If he is the donk he appears to be, just follow him around, and punish him at every table he sits at. There will probably be a waiting list to get his chips, but players like that are why we all play, right?
For the record, watchdog, I just played a Dbl Shootout Satellite to the $750k today on FT...we played 93 hands, and I had a dominant chip lead at my table until heads up. After reviewing the hand history, I discovered that in less than half of the situations did the best hand hold up if the players got all-in. There were 20 all-ins, in 6 the best hand held up. Some quick math showed me that on average, the best hand was a 63% favorite. I know I'm crazy, but I hate losing a chip lead to runner-runner twice in a row, then getting crippled when my JJ loses to 9-6. Starting to not trust FT.
Urge to kill rising....
That's hard, niether of those players should have see the flop with those cards and the bets out there.
Also, I try not to be in for all my money on anything less than 2 pair but I find myself there anyway. Easy to say, hard to do.
Don't play no limit on fulltilt......see this crap way to often. Otherwise it's all been said before.
Tough hand bud
Peace, J
In my opinion you played it right.. both others flopped top pair on the board, one happened to get lucky with runner runner spades.. can't do nothing about that.. SUCKS THOUGH!!!!
I advise commiting the name ImuPe to memory and run to his table to play from now on, I sure would
better luck next time