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RB's scamming in cyberspace??? Never crossed my mind...BUT

Jun 24, 2008 11:36 pm Report Abuse

This never crossed my mind until the other night's "********" tourney... someone (no names, but NOT a ******... let's just say "another" clan...) mentioned/implied we might use an instant messanger to share hole cards against other players...

What the heck is going on here... so how many tourney's have i lost to these guys b/c they are on the phone or using msn/yahoo/aol instant messanger and sharing hole cards and coaxing the game along????

Needless to say my play outlasted any cheating i was up against (IF ANY, NOT SAYING THERE WAS) as i chose to come in a cool second...

But I must be naive, I just never figured that we would do that period, let alone to other railbirds... which is a major reason i only play low stakes now online... and prefer live ring games all day long...

So just make sure you are ontop of your game, b/c you are prolly gonna have to beat 2-3 players against you... especially when certain clansmembers are bold enough to ask you to cheat in a tourney they themselves are hosting...



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LynchCats Jun 24, 2008 11:41 pm
I would forward that information to the poker site including the chat. let them investigate, there could be bans coming because of it.
hopet919 Jun 24, 2008 11:43 pm
I hope that is not the case. Thanks for the info. Hopefully morals will win over money but sadly i do not think so.
JamAndScram Jun 24, 2008 11:47 pm
good point, that never crosses my mind to do all the screenshots and copy paste crapola, i am not much of a cyber junkie... just a poker player... you know...? but this really suprised me fo sho!
DarkOdin Jun 24, 2008 11:53 pm

Needless to say my play outlasted any cheating i was up against (IF ANY, NOT SAYING THERE WAS) as i chose to come in a cool second...

yep i saw you continually put it in behind and turn your way out of danger.

mora19_66 Jun 24, 2008 11:57 pm
so this was said in a clan tourney, with rb members who are members of a clan.....great so now we cant trust clanmembers any more (AND I DONT SAY THAT ALL THE CLANMEMBERS ARE BAD)...btw i hope you sended a copy of that chat to the pokerroom
konawajim Jun 24, 2008 11:58 pm

Being part of a Clan, I find you implying that members would cheat offense. Period

mora19_66 Jun 25, 2008 12:00 am

in my opinion he is implying anything he just said what was said at that table by other clanmembers

LynchCats Jun 25, 2008 12:04 am
i'm part of a clan too. There is not one clan that should be condoning this behavior, so the fact that you're "offended" because you're in a clan and someone is being accused of collusion from a clan tournament is a joke to me.
JamAndScram Jun 25, 2008 12:04 am
not sure what you mean by that odin, but yea mora... threw me for a doozy... and i never think to taddle on people, but that one shoulda been a no brainer... sorry about that, totally shoulda
mora19_66 Jun 25, 2008 12:05 am

typmistake anything should be nothing

this was what i wanted to say

in my opinion he is implying notthing he just said what was said at that table by other clanmembers

AngryDragon Jun 25, 2008 12:06 am
Not naive, I would say you just have some morals and basic respect for other peoples in assuming they wouldn't do that. Unfortunately their are most likely lots of people that would do it, however, it can't work all that well because those of us that wouldn't dream of doing it are stil winning tournys . Congrats on your 2nd place.
JamAndScram Jun 25, 2008 12:07 am
i am in a clan too... lol has nothing to do with it accept i was trying to discretely let you know WHICH clan without getting it erased by the probabies
imasharkie78 Jun 25, 2008 12:11 am
Clan or no collusion is just plain wrong. Yes, while I am playing I talk to friends on MSN/Yahoo, and yes some of these people are playing poker as well. However, I don't want to know what cards they have. IMO all friendships end at the table and resume after the game is over.
Codimis Jun 25, 2008 12:18 am
quotaition marks are evident i presume. i dont know tho, man. some of the calls u were making almost made u look like the cheater i kid, kid
JamAndScram Jun 25, 2008 12:20 am
lol no doubt...
McSweg Jun 25, 2008 12:25 am

apparantly there is a group of brazilians doing this sort thing. they are splittig the winnings not much we can do im affraid

mcwoooooooooooooooooooooossh

smok3nmirrors Jun 25, 2008 12:35 am
WOW what a load of HOOEY!

Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. You lost because your mouth was writing checks your butt couldn't cash- pure and simple. The implication that I won because of any sort of cheating is just plain weak.

you CHOSE to take 2nd? Holy sour grapes batman! lmao- WOW

Furthermore you are smearing 54 other respected members of this community that played in that tournament without a shred of proof- or even another witness? Are you saying NOBODY else saw this "evidence" you have?
Gee how convenient you "didn't know how" to copy and paste this phantom evidence.

Some times people should just take their beats and realize that MAYBE they aren't as good as they THOUGHT they were; and stop pointing the finger at everyone else or making a fool of themselves by making phantom accusations and starting witch hunts.

Don't be bitter- just get better.

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Ironman Jun 25, 2008 12:47 am
I want to go on record that if I understand this right and it was members of my clan that are involved I am not only truly embarrassed, especially since it was the Ironmen who started asking all the Clans to pledge a ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY TOWARDS CHEATING OF ANY KIND! but I am down right MAD.
I hope that you take Lynchcats advice and forward that information to the site for a full investigation. Trust me, I will be doing my own investigation on this end and If I can not get to the bottom of it and correct it once and for all I will be resigning from the Ironmen.
If any part of this is true I want to apologize to everyone from all the NONCHEATING members of The Ironmen.
I will be publicly commenting on this again after I have gotten more information.
Pike60 Jun 25, 2008 12:49 am
I'm with the Shark clan and I can assure you that I have never heard this option being suggested to use in any of our tourney's. Not even suggested.

This isn't to say that there aren't people out there (not inferring RB members) that won't stoop this low in order to have a cheating edge.I've been at tables where I, and others, have picked up on what was obvious collusion that was either through the non-English chat or what I was thinking was msn/yahoo msgr.

Best thing to do is report suspicious play immediately to the poker site.
Hickoid Jun 25, 2008 1:00 am

Uh o i hope this is is not true cause i would hate to see some ppl get banned or othere thigns because of assumptions made by one person or even a few people......I my self will never cheat and have never cheated and i agree that cheaters should be banned ....but actions shouldn't be made by assumption only....which i don't expect action to be taken i was just pointing out that fact.

I hope that the this clan can figure something out and hopefully it is just a bad assumption of some1 cheating cause cheaters can ruin things for every1

Well GL and try to have fun

Hickoid


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