You've seen a multi-way pot in the small blind with K
, Q
, J
, 6
. The flop is A
, K
, T
and you check, planning to check-raise. But the plan backfires when all of your seven opponents check as well.
The turn card is the 2
. You bet pot ($16) and the bid blind raises to $60. It's folded to you, what should you do? He's got $100 left behind and you cover him.
Your answer
All-in
Railbird motivation
You have the nut straight and
yet it's an easy fold -
hahahahahahhahahahahahah- you have no redraw cards. There's virtually no way that your opponent doesn't have a straight too, so going all-in is a very bad idea. You'd bet $160 to get $160 back from a split - not a good move when your opponent might have a back-up flush draw or even a set to improve to a full house, in addition to the obvious straight.
There's an alternative move for those of you who like to live dangerously. You could just call and then bet if the board pairs without a diamond - you might win the pot on a bluff, since your opponent may think you have a full house. The problem is that since you have the worst position, you won't know what to do when a diamond hits.
This hand is excellent proof of how important position is in Omaha.
I completly think whoever wrote, its an easy fold. is a moron. I love how these daily poker quizes ask you, what do you do blah blah blah. First off i play 90% of my poker vs the PERSON not what has been bet, it matter his betting schemse, loose, tight, fish, donk. Id never fold the dead nuts. ever. expecially if the flush draww was a backdoor. I just laugh sometimes at who writes the answers to these poker quizes
no diamond( 11 cards, no pair of the board, 12 cards. 23 cards(without subtracting his paired cards, or 3 flush cards) ill take the 23 cards (52-8 known= 46-23 other diamonds and paired cards= 23) that arent a <> or a pair of the board, with the nuts any day. PLUS those odds are only if he has BOTH a fullhouse draw AND a flush draw. doubtful.
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Its true, I decided to go all in as well and read this shortly after. Deuce, I don't normally respond to your messages, or feel like reading ridiculously long summaries about hands but on this I agree. If your sitting at a $1-$2 table, what in this statement makes you believe these people have a straight. Someone could be over valuing two pair or a set. I play one two at the casino, and nothing I’ve seen thus far leads me to believe many people at 1-2 are all that reliable when it comes to betting winning hands. Often times, they pick ridiculous places to bluff.
Look, if you want to fold the nuts when you think your opponent could possibly have the ultimate drawing hand, and as of now you are tied, regardless of the fact that he/she showed weakness by checking, be my guest. I'll be glad to raise your bets. But if someone had a draw to a full boat, and the straight, I'd rather bet out small and get a drawing call out of one or more of the people around the table.
Another point is that check raising is an over used play, commonly perpetrated by amateur players who use it way too much. This is not a situation to check raise with seven people drawing around you. And who in their right mind wants to give seven people the opportunity to draw out on them in Omaha.
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Call me crazy if you want, but I don’t really care. Read a book, and stop trying to check raise pots you shouldn’t. And if you are going to make a poker quiz, don’t ask us questions about making mistakes and then tell us that we screwed up to begin with and dump the nuts. If you want to call, grow some balls and think about what’s going to happen on the next card with a pot that big and his stack so small.I also totally agree, folding there seems ludicrous at best. Why? Because you MIGHT get outdrawn? That, my friends, happens all the time, but to fold the current nuts is not happening. I also called, figuring that if the river is not a good card for me and hits the board for someone who might be drawing to a flush/full house I can fold.
There are many times I have disagreed w/the answers in the quiz, but this one I disagree w/most vehemently. I do not agree, however, that whoever is writing these ???s and answers is daft. Everyone plays the game differently, for different reasons. Who in the final analysis can say what is right and what is wrong.
I, personally, love suited connectors. They give many more opportunities for a big hand than a single pocket pair, unless u flop quads of course. When I get called donk for calling a shaky raise and hit I just laugh and keep playing.
Play well and prosper
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I wrote this in the forums as soon as i read it.
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