PokerStars Game #16402241231: Tournament #82982582, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/04/01 - 00:21:57 (ET) Table '82982582 6' 9-max Seat #9 is the button Seat 1: moeprobert (1480 in chips) is sitting out Seat 2: ZIMMzimma54 (1070 in chips) Seat 3: Dylan0421 (1080 in chips) Seat 4: scheetz2 (1380 in chips) Seat 5: JayAA85 (1420 in chips) Seat 6: Jimdeez (3980 in chips) Seat 7: Magic_JD (1490 in chips) is sitting out Seat 8: seventh_sam (1450 in chips) Seat 9: DeuceJr22 (1540 in chips)
moeprobert: posts small blind 10
ZIMMzimma54: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeuceJr22


Dylan0421: folds
scheetz2: folds
JayAA85: calls 20
Jimdeez: folds
Magic_JD: folds
seventh_sam: folds
DeuceJr22: raises 60 to 80
moeprobert: folds
ZIMMzimma54: folds
JayAA85: calls 60
*** FLOP ***



JayAA85: bets 100
DeuceJr22: raises 220 to 320
JayAA85: calls 220
*** TURN ***



Magic_JD has returned
JayAA85: checks
DeuceJr22: bets 1140 and is all-in
JayAA85: calls 1020 and is all-in
*** RIVER ***




*** SHOW DOWN ***
JayAA85: shows


(two pair, Queens and Tens)
DeuceJr22: shows


(a pair of Tens)
JayAA85 collected 2870 from pot
DeuceJr22 said, "wow you are terrible."
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2870 | Rake 0
Board





Seat 1: moeprobert (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 2: ZIMMzimma54 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 3: Dylan0421 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: scheetz2 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: JayAA85 showed


and won (2870) with two pair, Queens and Tens Seat 6: Jimdeez folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: Magic_JD folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: seventh_sam folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: DeuceJr22 (button) showed


and lost with a pair of Tens
Now was I right to say he was terrible? Did I really make a bad play? Or did I just run into a "donk?"
*keep in mind, it was blind poker, meant to be a bluff not me calling donking with 63.
* he calls a raise with q5, then bets out, gets raised 3x calls. checks then gets put allin and still calls.
* I understand, normaly Id lay down on turn... but that dead card on turn and him checking, shows me... he does not have a ten, does not even have a decent queen with the check, and if he was on a straight draw missed it. Thats why I made the river bet.
i just cant understand his play... or can say...well i got caught, just looks like terrible play to me.
** also, I hadnt made a bet yet... i won 50 chips from big blind checking down...folded every hand untill then.
19 comments
though you tried to represent a hand ..... not smart play. When he called your first overbet....you should have droped that hand and waited for a better place to try the bluff.
just my 2 cents.
MC24
Only my opinion.......
1) You were seat 9, right, you had the button. I'm an aggressive player, fully aware of positions, so every time the button bets or raises, I am on full alert that they could be playing position and not their cards.
2) Continuation bets - I am so very alert to that.
3) Preflop, postflop - fine you made a play for the pot. But you should have definitely let the hand go by the turn.
And I have to disagree with your comment, he was not terrible - you just got caught, that's all. It happens to us all.......
GL,
Icallu
Forgot to add: as to whether or not, he's a "donk" if he continues on and ITM, final table and/or win it, then the answer is no. But if he goes out in a blaze without ITM (if this was mid to late in the tourney) then yes. Early in the tourney, hard to tell.
Just my opinion.
Icallu 'bout said it all. Just because you bluff does not mean villain will fold. You decided to over-push will absolutely nothing, out of position - and he did have a hand. He hit - you didn't.
Also - Level I .. a lot of players make power moves to take an early chip lead and establish image. Better luck next time - but pick a better place. If you get caught/called - fold it. You are not married to a bluff.
Why bother making that play at Level I? It's way too early to try to make sophisticated plays or outrageous bluffs.
If players have any part of the flop in the early going of a tournament, most of them are looking to double-up or move onto the next freeroll. They may be in a 2 or 3 more at the same time, so going out at Level I when they have only invested 10 minutes or less is no big deal.
Save your bluffs for later in the tournament when you are up against better players that are willing to laydown a hand.
Don't take this personally, but this was a donk move. You always have to be aware of the state of mind of your opponents throughout the tournament. Early on, most don't care if they go out.
Better luck next time.
I fail to see how anyone's entire game can be judged in one hand , you made your play he made his , he either is very loose and will call anything or he just didn't believe you and caught you , either way he had a hand and you didn't , never let them see you sweat , say nh and move on , gl
all of the comments are good and not meant to attack your play. You just need to know when your bluff stopped working and bail before it gets you short stacked.
Look for more opportune times to employ them. i.e.: better possition, later in the tourney when you can steal blinds to make the next rounds. Let the eager beavers knock themselves out first.
Take care, see ya at the tables.
MC24
Deuce, if you want better players to respect what you are representing, you need to play at higher buy-ins. In the lower games, TAG is superior. Also, i agree with the others that you needed to recognize that it was time to let go. Also, what value was it to be derogatory? Gives YOU the bad image, especially in light of your cards.....he wont understand the concept behind your play.
i pretty much agree with all the replies on here.
he obviously is thinking that you're on a draw or just bluffing because if you did flop trips why would you play it in this manner.. in my opinion that was a very unnecessary all in move on the turn on your part.. basically you'll only get called there if you're beat so it really accomplishes nothing.
I am sitting here with my hubz, and we both dicided when we saw you raise preflop...you were dommed.
Ive heard it say, .."anyone can win with the best hand,...but it takes skill to win with a bad one"...so please ..bring your skill to my table any time...I would of called you also.