If you go way back and read some blogs I have written concerning pokerstars and how it favors aggressive players and also how internet poker runs in cycles this is the proof I need I have clearly stated in my blogs if you go into a tourney highly aggressive you catch more hands well my friends this is the ultimate proof! I won 16 out of 21 hands and in each hand I was way beat preflop I was playing rags as if they were AA an here are the results
Warning this is not a short blog but for those of you that are serious about your game it is worth a read
16 out of 21
All In on a gut shot second hand
PokerStars Game #13092177734: Tournament #66439653, 25000+500 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/11/07 - 08:21:16 (ET)
Table '66439653 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: pokermama57 (1480 in chips)
Seat 2: 7.5w (1620 in chips)
Seat 3: granpa64 (1480 in chips)
Seat 4: vivianix (1480 in chips)
Seat 5: kuschelgurke (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: Road Closer (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: hoptoad (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: spion00700 (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: lotsilora (1440 in chips)
granpa64: posts small blind 10
vivianix: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lotsilora 
kuschelgurke: folds
Road Closer: folds
hoptoad: folds
spion00700: calls 20
lotsilora: calls 20
pokermama57: calls 20
7.5w: folds
granpa64: raises 80 to 100
vivianix: calls 80
spion00700: calls 80
lotsilora: calls 80
pokermama57: folds
*** FLOP *** 
granpa64: bets 120
vivianix: folds
spion00700: folds
lotsilora: raises 1220 to 1340 and is all-in
granpa64: calls 1220
*** TURN *** 
*** RIVER *** 
*** SHOW DOWN ***
granpa64: shows 
(two pair, Aces and Threes)
lotsilora: shows (a straight, Ace to Five)
lotsilora collected 3100 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3100 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: pokermama57 folded before Flop
Seat 2: 7.5w (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: granpa64 (small blind) showed and lost with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 4: vivianix (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: kuschelgurke folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Road Closer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: hoptoad folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: spion00700 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: lotsilora showed and won (3100) with a straight, Ace to Five
3 6 suited all in after flop
PokerStars Game #13092195032: Tournament #66439653, 25000+500 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/11/07 - 08:23:26 (ET)
Table '66439653 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: pokermama57 (1460 in chips)
Seat 2: 7.5w (1620 in chips)
Seat 3: granpa64 (130 in chips)
Seat 4: vivianix (1340 in chips)
Seat 5: kuschelgurke (1480 in chips)
Seat 6: Road Closer (1460 in chips)
Seat 7: hoptoad (1460 in chips)
Seat 8: spion00700 (1490 in chips)
Seat 9: lotsilora (3060 in chips)
kuschelgurke: posts small blind 10
Road Closer: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lotsilora 
hoptoad: folds
spion00700 has timed out while being disconnected
spion00700: folds
spion00700 is sitting out
lotsilora: calls 20
pokermama57: calls 20
spion00700 is disconnected
7.5w: raises 180 to 200
granpa64: folds
vivianix: folds
kuschelgurke: folds
Road Closer: calls 180
lotsilora: calls 180
pokermama57: folds
*** FLOP ***
spion00700 is connected
Road Closer: checks
lotsilora: bets 2860 and is all-in
7.5w: folds
spion00700 has returned
Road Closer: calls 1260 and is all-in
*** TURN *** 
*** RIVER *** 
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Road Closer: shows 
(a pair of Threes)
lotsilora: shows (three of a kind, Threes)
lotsilora collected 3150 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3150 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: pokermama57 folded before Flop
Seat 2: 7.5w folded on the Flop
Seat 3: granpa64 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: vivianix (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: kuschelgurke (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Road Closer (big blind) showed and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 7: hoptoad folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: spion00700 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: lotsilora showed and won (3150) with three of a kind, Threes
q8 vs KK and A2 omg this was sic
PokerStars Game #13092216100: Tournament #66439653, 25000+500 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/11/07 - 08:26:00 (ET)
Table '66439653 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: pokermama57 (1420 in chips)
Seat 2: 7.5w (1420 in chips)
Seat 3: granpa64 (130 in chips)
Seat 4: vivianix (1340 in chips)
Seat 5: kuschelgurke (1470 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: hoptoad (1440 in chips)
Seat 8: spion00700 (1430 in chips)
Seat 9: lotsilora (4850 in chips)
spion00700: posts small blind 10
lotsilora: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lotsilora 
pokermama57: raises 20 to 40
7.5w: folds
granpa64: raises 90 to 130 and is all-in
vivianix: folds
kuschelgurke: folds
hoptoad: folds
spion00700: folds
lotsilora: calls 110
pokermama57: raises 1290 to 1420 and is all-in
lotsilora: calls 1290
*** FLOP *** 
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lotsilora: shows (a full house, Eights full of Jacks)
pokermama57: shows 
(two pair, Kings and Jacks)
lotsilora collected 2580 from side pot
granpa64: shows (two pair, Jacks and Eights)
lotsilora collected 400 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2980 Main pot 400. Side pot 2580. | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: pokermama57 showed and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 2: 7.5w folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: granpa64 showed and lost with two pair, Jacks and Eights
Seat 4: vivianix folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: kuschelgurke folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: hoptoad (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: spion00700 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: lotsilora (big blind) showed and won (2980) with a full house, Eights full of Jacks
85 suited vs QQ
PokerStars Game #13092230536: Tournament #66439653, 25000+500 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/11/07 - 08:27:43 (ET)
Table '66439653 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: 7.5w (2960 in chips)
Seat 4: vivianix (1340 in chips)
Seat 5: kuschelgurke (1470 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: hoptoad (1440 in chips)
Seat 8: spion00700 (1300 in chips)
Seat 9: lotsilora (4990 in chips)
7.5w: posts small blind 10
vivianix: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lotsilora 
kuschelgurke: folds
hoptoad: folds
spion00700: folds
kuschelgurke has returned
lotsilora: raises 100 to 120
7.5w: folds
vivianix: calls 100
*** FLOP *** 
vivianix: bets 120
lotsilora: raises 4750 to 4870 and is all-in
vivianix: calls 1100 and is all-in
*** TURN *** 
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
vivianix: shows 
(three of a kind, Queens)
lotsilora: shows (a flush, Ace high)
lotsilora collected 2690 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2690 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 2: 7.5w (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: vivianix (big blind) showed and lost with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 5: kuschelgurke folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: hoptoad folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: spion00700 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: lotsilora (button) showed and won (2690) with a flush, Ace high
87 off vs AQ suited
PokerStars Game #13092251696: Tournament #66439653, 25000+500 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/11/07 - 08:30:13 (ET)
Table '66439653 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: 7.5w (2350 in chips)
Seat 5: kuschelgurke (3360 in chips)
Seat 7: hoptoad (1410 in chips)
Seat 8: spion00700 (1240 in chips)
Seat 9: lotsilora (5140 in chips)
lotsilora: posts small blind 10
7.5w: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lotsilora 
kuschelgurke: folds
hoptoad: calls 20
spion00700: folds
lotsilora: raises 120 to 140
7.5w: raises 2210 to 2350 and is all-in
hoptoad: folds
lotsilora: calls 2210
*** FLOP ***
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lotsilora: shows (a full house, Eights full of Fives)
7.5w: shows (a flush, Ace high)
lotsilora collected 4720 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4720 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 2: 7.5w (big blind) showed and lost with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: kuschelgurke folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: hoptoad folded before Flop
Seat 8: spion00700 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: lotsilora (small blind) showed and won (4720) with a full house, Eights full of Fives
j 10 vs A9 all in after flop
PokerStars Game #13092260998: Tournament #66439653, 25000+500 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/11/07 - 08:31:19 (ET)
Table '66439653 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 5: kuschelgurke (3210 in chips)
Seat 7: hoptoad (1240 in chips)
Seat 8: spion00700 (1210 in chips)
Seat 9: lotsilora (7840 in chips)
hoptoad: posts small blind 15
spion00700: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lotsilora 
lotsilora: raises 180 to 210
kuschelgurke: folds
hoptoad: calls 195
spion00700: folds
*** FLOP *** 
hoptoad: bets 1030 and is all-in
lotsilora: calls 1030
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER *** 
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hoptoad: shows 
(high card Ace)
lotsilora: shows (a pair of Jacks)
lotsilora collected 2510 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2510 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 5: kuschelgurke (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: hoptoad (small blind) showed and lost with high card Ace
Seat 8: spion00700 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: lotsilora showed and won (2510) with a pair of Jacks
PokerStars Game #13092289155: Tournament #66439653, 25000+500 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/11/07 - 08:34:15 (ET)
Table '66439653 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 5: kuschelgurke (3385 in chips)
Seat 9: lotsilora (10115 in chips)
kuschelgurke: posts small blind 15
lotsilora: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lotsilora
kuschelgurke: calls 15
lotsilora: raises 150 to 180
kuschelgurke: calls 150
*** FLOP *** 
lotsilora: checks
kuschelgurke: bets 300
lotsilora: raises 9635 to 9935 and is all-in
kuschelgurke: calls 2905 and is all-in
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lotsilora: shows (two pair, Tens and Threes)
kuschelgurke: shows (a pair of Threes)
lotsilora collected 6770 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6770 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 5: kuschelgurke (button) (small blind) showed and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 9: lotsilora (big blind) showed and won (6770) with two pair, Tens and Threes
I have done this b4 and I've tried to explain that in internet poker (pokerstars especially) you go through series of cards any 2 cards and you are unbeatable and other times you can have AA every hand and lose every one of them I also know that it worls best when you are highly aggressive I hope you all can understand this and use it to your advantage
10 7 vs A2
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18 comments
interesting, no...very interesting post fellow!!!
i have recognised analoggys:
if you reraise someone it seems like that you force the software to "gift" you the next card on the board...i dont know if that happens only to people which lose at cashgames (as i ) , so it would be very interesting if there are other birdies with analoggy stories...
anyway, again lotsilora: very nice and interesting post from you!
These 2 handswere played back to back at the penny tables once again aggressive donkey gets paid
PokerStars Game #13092103691: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2007/11/07 - 08:11:11 (ET)
(a pair of Deuces)
and won ($0.90) with a pair of Deuces
Table 'Fringilla' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: born_2_bleuf ($7.06 in chips)
Seat 2: cabrio306 ($2.90 in chips)
Seat 3: lotsilora ($0.40 in chips)
Seat 4: squirrelly2 ($0.97 in chips)
Seat 5: PokerNeggN ($5.72 in chips)
Seat 6: w3av3r ($4.95 in chips)
Seat 7: Burzum 0815 ($1.49 in chips)
Seat 8: paule1488 ($2.09 in chips)
Seat 9: vollschiff ($2.97 in chips)
lotsilora: posts small blind $0.01
squirrelly2: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lotsilora
PokerNeggN: folds
w3av3r: folds
Burzum 0815: folds
paule1488: raises $0.06 to $0.08
vollschiff: folds
born_2_bleuf: folds
cabrio306: calls $0.08
lotsilora: raises $0.32 to $0.40 and is all-in
squirrelly2: folds
paule1488: calls $0.32
cabrio306: folds
cabrio306 leaves the table
*** FLOP ***
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lotsilora: shows
PiS.KK joins the table at seat #2
paule1488: mucks hand
lotsilora collected $0.90 from pot
paule1488 said, "**** ***"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.90 | Rake $0
Board
Seat 1: born_2_bleuf folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: cabrio306 (button) folded before Flop
Seat 3: lotsilora (small blind) showed
Seat 4: squirrelly2 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: PokerNeggN folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: w3av3r folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Burzum 0815 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: paule1488 mucked
Seat 9: vollschiff folded before Flop (didn't bet)
the guy was mad
PokerStars Game #13092108594: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2007/11/07 - 08:11:55 (ET)
(a pair of Jacks)
(a straight, Eight to Queen)
and won ($1.87) with a straight, Eight to Queen
and lost with a pair of Jacks
Table 'Fringilla' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: born_2_bleuf ($7.06 in chips)
Seat 2: PiS.KK ($5 in chips)
Seat 3: lotsilora ($0.90 in chips)
Seat 4: squirrelly2 ($0.95 in chips)
Seat 5: PokerNeggN ($5.72 in chips)
Seat 6: w3av3r ($4.95 in chips)
Seat 7: Burzum 0815 ($1.49 in chips)
Seat 8: paule1488 ($1.69 in chips)
Seat 9: vollschiff ($2.97 in chips)
squirrelly2: posts small blind $0.01
PokerNeggN: posts big blind $0.02
PiS.KK: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lotsilora
w3av3r: folds
Burzum 0815: folds
paule1488: raises $0.02 to $0.04
vollschiff: calls $0.04
born_2_bleuf: folds
PiS.KK: folds
lotsilora: calls $0.04
squirrelly2: calls $0.03
PokerNeggN: folds
*** FLOP ***
squirrelly2: checks
paule1488: bets $0.08
vollschiff: folds
lotsilora: raises $0.78 to $0.86 and is all-in
squirrelly2: folds
paule1488: calls $0.78
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
paule1488: shows
lotsilora: shows
lotsilora collected $1.87 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.92 | Rake $0.05
Board
Seat 1: born_2_bleuf folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: PiS.KK folded before Flop
Seat 3: lotsilora (button) showed
Seat 4: squirrelly2 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: PokerNeggN (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: w3av3r folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Burzum 0815 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: paule1488 showed
Seat 9: vollschiff folded on the Flop
I dont think i want to try this out...lol
I limp with AK and AQ...but go crazy with a 2 in my hand...lol
whatever works for you...wooooooot.
Then theres my hubby who plays 96 just to bug me, and he wins with them most of the time lol.
That just makes me sick lol.
LMAO....I played a RB freeroll the other day (ya ya, its a freeroll, probably doesn't apply)....Anyways, I purposely played wrong. I went all in with 72 three times. The first time I lost on the river (LOL, got rivered with 72). The other two times I crushed AK and pocket J's. I knocked out AA with 106 offsuit (I raised preflop). I was basically playing ATC poker. At break, I had a little over 12k in chips. I didn't get a chance to finish, because I had to go to work, but wow, that was the best I have done in a freeroll in quite a while. So, I am not saying its rigged, but their may be a glitch somewhere.....
GL on the flop
Ron
In no way am I stating pokerstars is crooked I watck all the big money games and I play there a lot what I am saying is that certain seats go through a series of wins when they should not even have been in the hand I see it all the time
Big example Jamie Gold in the WSOP he was catching cards like no tommorrow 1 outers on the river like crazy you just have to recognize when youor a player at your table has the horshe shoe and use it to your advantage
16 out of 21 with cards I should not even have been playing should proove what I am saying and this is not the first time this has happened
"Card rushes", "cycles", etc are all part of the statistics.
The basic theory of statistics is that odds even out over a period of time. You have to look at a very large sample to see things even out in poker.
Statistical theory supports that while each occurance is independent of every other occurance, that odds will even out over a large enough sample. So this means that if you "run bad" for a while, you are going to have to "run good" for a while in order to even it out.
OKay. I dug out my thumb drive (where I have this stuff saved.) There 1326 possible hands for you to have. And that is just your hoel cards. Add the other players at the table and the possible combination of cards on the flop, turn, and river, and I think you would have to document this playing style over at LEAST 100,000 hands for any analysis to statistical validity. Keep up that style of play over 100,000 hands and then you MIGHT be able to draw some conclusions.